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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#26: Nov 30th 2016 at 4:38:54 AM

Perhaps the pic on Lawman Baton would fit better here? The rudeness is emphasized since he's addressing the reader, and there are plenty of alternatives on the Image Links subpage.

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#27: Nov 30th 2016 at 7:32:39 PM

Re-clocked. [up] isn't a bad idea...I could do with this, this, or this as the replacement.

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#28: Nov 30th 2016 at 9:31:59 PM

Dredd is...let's face facts, a bit of a dick. I have no quarrel with using him as a page image.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#29: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:11:17 AM

I don't get "good" from 26. And the big letters in the bg are irritating.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#30: Dec 1st 2016 at 4:47:33 AM

^ Good Colors, Evil Colors. The villains in that comic look like this.

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#31: Dec 1st 2016 at 4:50:13 AM

I agree that "good" might not be obvious to someone who is not familiar with the character, cops are frequently the bad guys.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#32: Dec 2nd 2016 at 3:19:32 AM

^ As often as they're the good guys? It's not called Cops And Robbers for nothing.

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Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#33: Dec 5th 2016 at 6:25:53 AM

Good Is Not Nice should just depict a character with good intentions, but whose personality is that of a jerk. Seeing a lot of superhero suggestions here, and cops, but it doesn't need to be one of those.

How about Blackquill from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – Spirit of Justice? He definitely wants to help his kohai, but chooses bitter words to do so. This is just a sample:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/blackquill_350.png
It's his way of saying you have talent for trials. You just don't know how to exploit it on your own.

edited 5th Dec '16 6:32:48 AM by Gosicrystal

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#34: Dec 5th 2016 at 6:45:29 AM

That guy actually looks way more like a bad guy than my suggestion. It's also a bit too elaborate to be really effective.

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#35: Dec 6th 2016 at 9:20:35 PM

[up] I have to agree.

Re-clocked again; this will be the last time.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#36: Dec 7th 2016 at 7:08:38 AM

Beyond the consensus to move the Batman pic from Good Is Not Nice to Good Is Not Soft we've been deadlocked for a while now with this one, so to resolve this I compiled a crowner out of the most concrete suggestions on the last two pages.

The only ones I didn't include were Wolverine #1 (too many panels, not clear which is being offered), and Superman+Captain America, which are as pointed out, closer to other tropes (Red Eyes, Take Warning and Good Is Not Soft, respectively). I'd add that Superman in context is also closer to Beware the Nice Ones than a hero with a good moral core whose behavior is just that of an asshole.

edited 7th Dec '16 7:12:04 AM by Morgenthaler

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Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#37: Dec 7th 2016 at 4:26:03 PM

I have another character proposal from the Ace Attorney franchise. This time it's shorter and more to the point:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/edgeworth_8.png
Miles Egdeworth: a righteous man who can be made a jerk with the right dose of stupidity.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#38: Dec 7th 2016 at 4:54:44 PM

The bottom panel may suffice.

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#40: Dec 7th 2016 at 6:14:21 PM

[up] Not enough context to establish the "good" with just that one panel. The 2-panel plus the caption is pretty good.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#41: Dec 8th 2016 at 1:59:01 AM

Can the crowner I linked above be hooked to the thread, please?

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#42: Dec 8th 2016 at 5:30:42 AM

[up][up] I added my 2-panel entry to the crowner.

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#44: Dec 10th 2016 at 2:07:33 AM

Since Frank's considered an example of both tropes how about we use the PSA for one of the tropes and get a good image for the comic page? Go back to the gun that shoots swords maybe?

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#45: Dec 10th 2016 at 3:58:48 AM

Upgraded the Cyclops image. Reconsider.

Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#46: Dec 10th 2016 at 4:54:29 AM

My complaint with Cyclops is that I actually had to look up who he is (I'm not into the superhero universe) to understand why he's supposed to be good. The picture itself should show that.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
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#48: Dec 12th 2016 at 7:54:48 PM

Votes bump; three in the green, two in consensus range.

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#49: Dec 15th 2016 at 9:29:57 AM

From Archie-Sonic comics: One version with the (irrelevant) "whut's up doc" line, one that omits it but leaves the stem note  of the speech balloon. Then again, I presume that said stem could be mistaken for anything else.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ahllshoyoumanners4.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ahllshoyoumanners3.png

Also, what does the Ace Attorney one add that wouldn't work as a page quotation? Even the Punisher one only works better as an image than a page quotation if you recognize his appearance.

edited 15th Dec '16 10:45:22 AM by neoYTPism

Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#50: Dec 15th 2016 at 2:26:17 PM

[up]First, I think that picture misses the meaning of the trope, or at least that's my impression (not a fan of Sonic, so I don't know the great scope of what's going on). Looks like Sonic is taking the other guy(Eggman?)'s suggestion sarcastically, in a reply to a taunt. Plus punching someone does not equal not being nice.

Second, I don't really understand the "a quote would work the same" argument I've been reading over IP recently. If that was true, over half of the pictures on the site would be worthless. Text is sometimes necessary to represent what can't be represented visually. Just because a pic has text, it doesn't mean it should be dismissed. If I'm missing something here, just tell me, because I'm still learning how IP works.

And third, not everyone knows The Punisher, so leaving out the text is not an option. I don't know who that guy is and wouldn't have known he's good without the text.

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7th Dec '16 7:01:48 AM

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