God's Not Dead 2

I think I surpassed my limit on mentioning that movie.

(Just one last time: If anyone interested in that movie, PLEASE watch the Director's Cut version, that and the Theatrical Cut is an entirely different movie)

God's Not Dead: But Guildenstern and Rosencratz Are.

well... just about any British film that features Muslims I'd say (NOT FOUR LIONS!!!), since they a large part of our cultural makeup, though I'm struggling to think of a specific example

Yeah, the non-war bits do show a more tolerant society, if you can count executing knights for killing Arabs that.

True story: when this was showing at my local podunk theater in Bumfuck, Michigan, they didn't even have a poster for it. Just an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper with "God's Not Dead 2" scrawled on it in sharpie.

Okay, be honest, is it wrong that I laughed at that?

Nope. I giggled at that too.

God's Not Dead: Shhh Don't Tell Nietsche

I don't know if it counts as a Christian movie, because religion is never openly discussed really, and it's a sports movie more than anything else, but Forever Young does a good job of showcasing Christian-style values without looking self-righteous. And it does the inspirational true story thing well IMO

Also the production company is Mormon, so technically it's a Mollywood movie for what it's worth.

Oh, and The Prince Of Egypt. That's a fantastic movie.

edited 10th May '16 6:23:32 PM by Sisi

Okay, the Chinese convert's father didn't disown him because he's an atheist; he disowned him because he's a Communist, and therefore regards religion of any kind, and especially Christianity, as shameful to the family. And yes, the ACLU has been known to bring frivolous lawsuits against Christians to silence any mention of Christianity in the public square; it is completely plausible to depict them as filing this lawsuit, and equally plausible to depict a public school backing down in the face of such pressure even though they clearly have no case.

As for the cancer-survivor blogger, the notion of God miraculously curing somebody as a test of faith is in the Bible. Jesus cured ten lepers, yet only one praised God for it. Jesus healed the paralytic at Bethesda (who had been there 38 years), and a short time later said to him, "Stop sinning or something worse will happen!" In this way, God reveals whether the person sincerely believes and wants to obey God or merely wanted his disease cured. It's easy to love God when you have nothing to lose; it's much harder when it means sacrificing something.

There was also that one woman that had internal bleeding.

Yeah, while Christians (like many groups) do face discrimination in the US, this is still one of the nicest places for them to be to the point that using the specific term "persecution" is kind of melodramatic. If you want to talk about religious persecution, it's best to go to the worst places where this occurs, such as communist regimes.

You know, something I'd like to see is a sci-fi involving missionaries IN SPAAAAACE. That could be a really awesome concept right there.

I myself am writing a sci-fantasy setting which involves a conflict between the protagonists (which worship the setting's Crystal Dragon Jesus) and another group that's attempting a Rage Against the Heavens due to being very Wrong Genre Savvy (believing that God Is Evil in a setting where that's not the case).

Yeah, if you want to see persecution of Christians, look in the Middle East where they're frequently the target of blasphemy laws (whether they did something blasphemous to Islam or not) or in China where Communism doesn't allow religion at all (or at least in China religion that isn't Buddhism or Confucianism).

You know, something I'd like to see is a sci-fi involving missionaries IN SPAAAAACE. That could be a really awesome concept right there.

Can aliens even be Christian? I mean Jesus died for humanity's sins.

Depends on your interpretation I guess. The pope is supposedly fine with the idea, at least.

It depends on interpretation. Come to think of it, if that concept were turned into a story, that should probably be a central theme (how relevant the Christian religion is to aliens). One possible idea would be to go a "syncretist" route and have it so aliens have Christianity-like religions that the church declares are caused by God's interactions with aliens (IE, "Alien deity is actually another incarnation of Christ")

I remember in Mass Effect a spread of religions is actually a thing in the galaxy, like because of their emphasis on obeying higher authorities Taoism and Confucianism are popular among turians.

Reminds me of a comic strip where the aliens has their own Jesus and their Jesus goes back to visit them often and brings them chocolate. And then the aliens ask how we dealt with our Jesus when he visited us.

edited 1st Jun '16 1:56:26 PM by nightwyrm_zero

I remember an episode of Texts from Superheroes. Wonder Woman and Superman talk about Christmas and she asks how often Jesus and Santa visit Earth. Then she says that Odin visits her every year and that he owes her 20 bucks. XD

But Wonder Woman is Greek O.o

All Myths Are True in the DCU? Anyways, complaining about persecution in the USA seems offensive considering that there are Christians being murdered because of their beliefs. People being jerks to each other kinda pales in comparison...

You're misremembering. She said Zeus.

I think the problem with the term "persecution" is that it's a melodramatic term, to say the least. A more accurate statement would be: "there's some small level of social stigma directed at Christianity in our society". This isn't the same thing as how Christians in Syria or North Korea are treated by a long shot, though it probably shouldn't be dismissed entirely just because other people have it worse.

edited 2nd Jun '16 2:13:09 PM by Protagonist506

There is a very self indulgent idea in EEUU christianty, that idea that religion have to be everywhere and because is christianity that is something good so you must be a bad guy for wanted it gone which make people in the film come as whinners

EEUU as in "Los Estados Unidos", yes?

Pretty much. A lot of the people who are against religion in the states are either A) against the religious privilege given to Christianity that other religions cannot even hold a candle to, B) against the social religious privilege that Christianity has over other religions (i.e. Usually some other religion's actions or the fact that children perform these religious practices are seen as 'weird' when Christianity's practices are not see as such and are considered 'normal'.), or C) are tired of its influence on our society and culture and wish to go for something that is more sociatially neutral for various reasons other reasons.

Personally, I'm not all that into religion because I think a lot of teachings that are associated with Christanity are harmful in the long run and I find the community to be a bit... passively toxic. Namely I find its influence over our education kind of concerning (mostly in regards to sexual education) and the intolerance of religious followers over LGBT Persons, while not universal, is pretty poor and many will cite their religious texts 'because'. People will also response to that with 'They aren't real Christians' without solving the actual problem and taking responsibility for the problems.

Maybe I'm getting a bit personally sidetracked so I'll get to my point. The people who are 'I'm against religion because I hate God for personal reasons' are outliers comparatively. But this film is FULL of those people to the point that the only reason you could POSSIBLY be against religion at all is because you hate God and are an angry individual. Any legitimate grievances one might have are handwaved and dismissed by poor writing and strawmen.

Christian apologists would like to pretend that the only reason someone would abjure Christianity is if they had some sort of purely personal beef with God or one of his decisions. This is because the Christian intellectual tradition doesn't have the chops to contend with any of the rational arguments that have been presented against it in recent years, and so it's proponents grasp for a way to let them rationalize away irreligiosity and any intellectual arguments in favor of it.

And it shows too. This theory has a lot of holes. According to this, nobody who hasn't suffered some grand personal tragedy should be an atheist, and yet there are plenty of these people in every country. It also contradicts statistical evidence that links a safer, more devleoped country and increased standards of living with reduced religiosity, exactly the opposite of what you'd expect if this argument were true.

edited 3rd Jun '16 10:48:31 AM by Gault