Opening this. Good work on the wick check.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
See, "Selective Squick" so doesn't sound like what captainpat defined this trope as...
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Yea, the name is extremely misleading and I think it should be changed.
Man, I failed the "guess that trope" test on this one spectacularly. Definitely not an intuitive name.
Edit: Good grief, even the examples on the page itself don't seem to agree on the meaning. (Doesn't help that they're disorganized).
edited 28th Jan '16 4:11:27 PM by nrjxll
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
Since one of those things right at the top complains about Fan Disservice for male nudity, I think we should check Fan Disservice for "Oh no, a MAN is naked." As a Bisexual, this pisses me off.
But that's a topic for another thread. Also Complaining about Trope Misuse you don't like shouldn't be in a trope description. It should be HERE, in this forum.
Also, Very Melon, that's the opposite of this trope, which would be Periphery Fan Disservice.
edited 30th Apr '16 7:19:35 AM by TheOneWhoTropes
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Yep, failed Guess the Trope as well. Thought this was an in-universe trope.
Honestly, I have trouble seeing how this trope is meaningful at all. From the description this seems like a complaining trope from the POV of the Periphery Demographic. If I understand the trope correctly, this is when the unintended/secondary audience of a work is offended/squicked when a work panders to its main audience. How is that really meaningful beyond complaining?
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
It isn't. And it has complaining about straight males using Fan Disservice for naked men instead of bringing Fan Disservice here or to one of the projects threads or ATT.
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Looking through the examples I wouldn't be against cutlisting it at this point. Not only can the examples not agree on a definition, the whole point of the trope is based around complaining. And I don't believe it's even meaningful complaining. Given the trope is mainly about complaints/squick from the secondary (unintended) audience seems to edge it close to Complaining About Shows You Dont Like.
Mweheheh
It's too early to say for sure, but I think killing it is a viable option.
Peace is the only battle worth waging.
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
Another vote for cutting.
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Cut
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Cut.
Don't really much care for its actual definition.
edited 2nd May '16 4:57:24 PM by captainpat
i'm at the combination she and it
I wasn't aware there was a definition for this trope besides "I'm a straight male and I'm grossed out at seeing a nude guy". Scrapping it would be the best option in my eyes, since there's not much worth keeping otherwise.
This "trope" is nothing more than PC complaining.
The Unknown
Cut.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Cut.
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
Cut. It isn't a real trope. Oops - I've voted twice.
edited 6th May '16 2:49:30 AM by TheOneWhoTropes
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Unless anyone has input besides chopping it, I believe it is time to take this to the chopping block.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
Will start the de-wicking.
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
A mod'll need to get rid of the wicks in Double Standard, Sandbox.Double Standard and Fanfic.My Immortal
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Hi
How sweet it is
Note has been placed in discussion. As there's nothing left to do besides cutlist, looks like we're done here.
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This trope is supposed to be about elements of a work designed to appeal to its target demographic that also end up annoying its Periphery Demographic.
Instead it's being used for cases where fans are being "hypocritical" with their distaste of something in a work. "Liking X but hating Y even though X and Y are similar". And works that allow one form of explicit content but not another (allowing blood and gore but censoring nudity or swearing)
Wick check results (13 wicks out of 87 total):
hated by Periphery Demographic
"hypocritical" hate
"Hypocritical" censorship