Interaction between gods

Ok, I was reading one thread here about god a superpower beings and it make me ask something: usually in setting where egyptian,greeks,nordics gods are real, we never see having diferent opinion about each other, the most close was supernatural "twilight of gods" and that it.

So who do you think other gods would treat each other if they manage to know them well? for example I think Odin and Zeus woundnt hang so well consider the former is oathbreaker which piss off the second(who is also the god of sacred hospitality)

So, what do you think about it?

If where going off of the 'multiple pantheons jammed together approach' such as Age Of Mythology where every ones myth and storys are true then something every body needs to keep in mind is that now all gods need to dance around each others end of the world situations.

Zeus would end up just as dead as Odin in Ragnarok so as much as Odin dislikes Zeus for being, as you say an oath breaker, he has to, much the same American had to live with the Soviet Union, stay on at least friendly terms with Zeus if only so that when it comes to the end of the world he has an extra lighting bolt slinger to help him prevent it (for now) to help him.

That's another thing to keep in mind. In many of these You Can'tFightFate mythologys the myths only consider the gods of that pantheon, throw in other gods and that shifts so that while Ragnorak may still happen Odin, IF he stays on good terms, can phone up Zeus and say "hay we got an army of frost gaints here that when they beat us are gonna freeze the whole world including Greece care to help?" and therefore get a better result, contrary to what fate says, or at least that's the thought.

Either way as much as they may not like each other, they have to get along if only so that when things go bad they can pull a Gondor Calls for Aid and get some help.

Look at how the cultures those gods governed interacted with each other. Celtic gods and Roman gods are generally going to have a neutral-to-negative relationships, while Roman and Greek (there is a difference, contrary to popular belief) gods would more likely have a positive-to-neutral relationship. Likewise, the Roman gods aren't going to be on the best terms with the Abrahamic God.

Assuming that they hadn't already killed eachother off until the last pantheon standing, I would imagine it would be a case of live and let live. You don't fuck with me and mine and I don't fuck with you and yours sort of thing.

Honestly, I don't would play it too seriously. Gods would treat other like people a natural disaster on the papers.

Hera: Hum, I think they're crucifying that Jew guy's son right now.

Zeus: "Jew guy". Why nobody tells me his name?

Hera: It's Unpronounceable darling.

Zeus: Hum, hum, so much arrogance of this jewish god. "My name is too complicated for mortals", "I am beyond your mortal comprehension", blahblahblah. Please, how this guy wants to be worshipped if nobody knows his name?

That made me laugh. XD

It's Yaweh, Ya-Wey. It's just impolite/impious to use.

Of course, then there's the Great Abrahamic Split of Jewish, Christian, and Muslim who basically worship the same god despite being different religions.

So Yaweh ends up a bit schizo at times. Or has really unruly followers.

I thought the Commandment said to not say His name in vain, not to not say it in general. :S

Allah: hi

Yaweh: who the hell are you?

Allah: im you...its complicated

Also I will imagine Hades having Envy of Anubis and Osiris, they are well respect it in their culture while he is stuck there with the dick in the sky and the dick of the sea as brothers.

edited 5th Oct '15 11:31:07 AM by unknowing

@Belisaurius: Actually, Yaweh is not the Abrahamic God's name. His name IS unknown. Yaweh comes from YHVH, the only letters of his name that are known. I don't know when or how the Y became a J (giving us JHVH or Jehovah) but yea. So, it's actually impossible to call the god by his name; he will only be addressed by his various titles.

edited 5th Oct '15 7:05:54 PM by nekomoon14

Yahweh is closer to the original Hebrew, while Jehovah is the English translation (each language has their own translation of Bible names). For instance, compare Jehovah with Joshua (English translation) and Yahweh with Yeshua (the original Hebrew name). Fun fact: Yeshua is the original Hebrew name of both Joshua and Jesus; the reason why their names are different in English is that Joshua is translated directly from Hebrew, while Jesus is translated indirectly from the Greek translation of the Hebrew name.

So it is not entirely true to say that his name is unknown, or that it is impossible to call God by his name. What is true is to say is that the pronunciation of his original name in Hebrew is unknown. But for the vast majority of the world that does not speak Hebrew, that is completely irrelevant, since they would not be referring to him by that name even if they knew it, the same way that English-speakers call his son Jesus even though it is known that his original name was Yeshua. So it actually is possible to call God by his name.

edited 5th Oct '15 7:41:42 PM by shiro_okami

The thing is, you can't say "YHVH" in Hebrew, which is why it's impossible to say the god's name. The vowels commonly inserted between those consonants are guesses. In fact, there may be more letters in the name. There's no way to know for sure, unless he's in the mood to reveal some more. Now, referring to Yeshua as Jesus is like refusing to call Jorge "Jorge" because you'd rather call him George. It's kinda rude and I wouldn't do that to my deity if I had one.

Ehhh focus people.

So I kept thinking and I dont think many gods would feel god with abrahamic god, he is quite diferent from all of them, I woudl imagine the egypt god being in his shit list after the whole moses thing going on.

So consider the gods atribute and personality, what other interactil will be?

I'd go with either endless wars, or complete apathy. As I'm too cynical to really imagine it all happening any other way, I may not be the best person to reply here.

Though, I did like how things played out in The Salvation War, where the pantheons were apparently just marking out chalklines or somesuch.

No, it's not. Greek-speakers did not refer to Yeshua by a different name because they refused to, they did it because they probably could not or did not know how to pronounce the Hebrew name, or simple linguistic drift, and the translation became more popular.

You didn't actually contradict my assertion

1) You said "probably", which makes it sound like you're guessing, which is fine as long as you don't present that guess as a verified fact.

2) Just because you have "good" reasons to mispronounce someone's name doesn't make it any less impolite. Jorge is Jorge, not George; even if you have a hard time saying "Jorge" properly.

I guess I'll agree to disagree with you, tho, because we seem to be getting off topic This all started because of a very brilliant joke by one Meet the New Boss

edited 6th Oct '15 7:37:40 PM by nekomoon14

Dionysus: Sorry I'm late guys, wheres the booze?!

Osiris: Don't bother D. Thor just skulled all the beer.

Jesus: Don't worry... I got this.

Holy Odin. This entire idea has so much comedic potential... I'd say the rule of thumb when writing interaction between gods would be to milk it for all it's worth and fill in several "Funny Moments" pages.

Osiris brings out an entire tube of water straight from the Nile.

Jesus tries to turn it into wine, ends up turning it into blood. "Not Again", Osiris remembers.

Kali just jumps in, actually bathing in blood.

The Dagda and a horde of other Irish/Celtic deities arrive with his never-ending cauldron because if they can't drink yet, they might as well eat for about three hours.

YHWH creates a stein so big he cant even drink all of it. The Aesir and Greeks gods love it. The Hindu pantheon aren't impressed. The Celtic gods are dancing on the tables.

Jesus is so embarrassed you guys.

Oh man, this thread is "off-topic" done right.

In some universes where they have this the general rule is often "You have your mythological dimensions and I have mine" with Earth being shared territory at best if not gods keeping to their own areas where they are worshipped. Thor and Hercules may get into a tussle on Earth, but if Thor came to Olympus or Hercules to Asgard to create trouble they would be smacked down possibly by their own fathers.

Frankly, I would be able to see gods from different pantheons getting along that well. Gods have difficulty getting with member of their own family and culture let alone another because it is different or "inferior." Some degree of cordiality would be necessary to keep the peace when gods interact yet true friendships would be rare. I imagine it would more often result in a boasting contest or fight...possibly played out through worshippers.

Another factor to consider might be Fate. In theory, yeah Odin might be able to call up Zeus for help. Would that help or would circumstances transpire to make Zeus' help useless since Ragnarok is "fated?" Would Zeus be inclined to help those "barbarians" since the Olympus dimension itself would still stand. Only the nine worlds of the Norse cosmos would burn. As for Earth...well Zeus can always create new worshippers.

It's also possible that Zeus help would be useless for different reason. The Greek myths seem to run like a meta-Generational Saga with one generation usurping the other Primordial > Titans >Olympians (There might be a generation ro two I missed)

Then again If I recalled correctly Zeus tried to break the cycle with either Humans or Gigantes (I can't recall) but that might mean that Zeus would prolly avoid Ragnarok like the Plauge to preserve hiw own existence

As another contribution tot his thread. There is a collection of Fanfics called The Infinite Loops, which presented the partitions (and Madoka, long story) in an All Myths Are True fashion. It's set in the setting of Ah! My Goddess and deals with them trying to fix the world tree supercomputer (when it's focuses on them at least. The fics are more about various fictional universes stuck in a Stable Time Loop and other metaphysical issues caused by Yggdrasil's glitches, and the Gods attempting to fix it serves for as an Excuse Plot for why the loops are happening)

Shin Megami Tensei is also an example of gods and mythical creatures interacting with each other...barely but its an example

edited 9th Nov '15 9:39:12 PM by MorningStar1337