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Scorpion451 It was like that when I found it. from The Milky Way Galaxy (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#1: Jul 19th 2015 at 1:52:51 PM

Ran across this one while answering a query in the Lost And Found:

Basically, the problem is this:

  • In general media, there is no trope for what this trope covers: seeing the same story from another perspective within the same work without changing the facts each time. There are similar tropes I list below, but all of them explicitly exclude this exact situation.
  • There is no reason for this trope to be a video game-exclusive trope. It is not about a mechanic, it is about an unusual type of storytelling, to which the current definition adds in video games.

Perspective Flip is exclusively for an External Retcon.
P.O.V. Sequel is about sequels, not internal retellings.
"Rashomon"-Style requires the facts to change depending on viewpoint.
Switching P.O.V. should be a supertrope to Another Side, Another Story, and thus does fit this situation, but it does not address the trope we're talking about: the fact that you're seeing retellings of the same events from different perspectives (without an Unreliable Narrator), one after the other, within the same work.

Proposed solution: Rewrite the description in a more general way to eliminate the "video game only" requirement, and open it to all media. Maybe mention it as especially common in video games, and make a subpage for video game examples.

edited 19th Jul '15 1:54:11 PM by Scorpion451

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#2: Jul 19th 2015 at 2:43:01 PM

Is there another media type where after finishing the first story you go back again and you go through the whole work again through another perspective?

That's not a sequel? That's kept in the exact same work? Not another episode. Not another film, or another book. Exact same work.

I honestly can't come up with a single non-video game example, and the page doesn't have any. We don't expand media specific tropes simply because they're media specific. Sometimes tropes just don't get used outside of their normal media.

In any other media, when they do this it's a sequel or a retelling. It's never the whole work again while inside the same work.

This isn't just retelling the same segment of story one after another. It's the whole entire work repeated from another POV.

Now, if it's missing a supertrope, go ahead and make it, but don't expand a working trope with a very specific definition just so you can shoehorn other media into it.

edited 19th Jul '15 2:49:47 PM by shimaspawn

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DiamondWeapon Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:00:45 PM

While it would be theoretically possible to make a book/movie/etc where the same story is told again from another POV after the first one ends, I have never heard of one. You don't mention any either.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#4: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:59:33 PM

Yeah, I'd like to see actual examples of what the proposed expansion would include that aren't included now. We don't define tropes after what we want them to be. We analyse what we see done in works and figure out what the patterns are. As it is, there's no pattern for this happening outside video games.

edited 20th Jul '15 12:01:51 AM by AnotherDuck

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5: Jul 20th 2015 at 12:48:18 AM

I think this whole topic is a case for YKTTW. The videogame specific trope is good as-is, non-videogame examples can get a supertrope if there are any.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#6: Jul 20th 2015 at 12:15:36 PM

All right, locking this one as it's not actually a multimedia trope. We can't just expand into into one when it's not used anywhere else.

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