Aversion Clean up

Bringing up the following examples from Spinetinglers:

• Adults Are Useless: Averted in Billy Baker's Dog Won't Stay Buried. Billy's mom is there for the horror and shows concern the whole way through and the family vet helps out when things go down.
• Militaries Are Useless: Averted in Camp Crocodile. It's established the camp has military connections and in the end some military people storm in to kill the croc.

Is this really an aversion of Naked People Are Funny?

• Averted in Star Trek: Voyager when Q2 removes Seven of Nine's clothes and is disappointed by her lack of response. He does appear to be impressed by the rest of her though.

Not sure if this example from Literature.Spice And Wolf is notable enough to count.

• Creator Provincialism: Averted. The series takes place in a fictional medieval setting, and there's hardly any signs of anything especially Japanese in culture, architecture, or naming convention. If not for the completely fictitious country and place names, it could be mistaken for an entirely European creation.

Edited by Oratel on May 5th 2024 at 4:19:00 AM

Bringing up the following example from Our Ladies:

• Moody Trailer Cover Song: Averted. The trailer makes use of a cover by Eddi Reader of In a Big Country but takes the song in a much more joyful and hopeful direction rather than making it moody or morose.

Found this on Trivia.Sunset Boulevard:

• Career Resurrection: Averted. Gloria Swanson's film career was not revitalized by the film. She was disappointed to see that all the parts she was offered subsequently were watered down versions of Norma Desmond. Ultimately she retired completely from films, making only sporadic appearances, notably in Airport 1975.

You can’t avert Trivia, so cut it,

I brought this up before, but didn't get a response. Franchise.Back To The Future has a whole folder full of averted tropes:

Are any of these allowed? For one thing several of the examples don't refer to the franchise as a whole.

Can Trivia be played with at all? Fanwork Ban has a playing with page.

I cutlisted it.

Sorry for the double post, but any thoughts on the Back to the Future entries I posted?

About those Back to the Future examples. I find them all questionable except for a few:

• Mentor Occupational Hazard: I do think this is a correct example, although averted and defied tropes are lightly different.
• San Dimas Time: This is probably the only legitiamate averted example in that whole folder, bonus points for being lampshaded and (tried) to be defied in universe.

So This Is Basically...

• Affectionate Parody:
  • It's clear that Jello loves the series he's making fun of, aside from a few criticisms. The sole exceptions are Adventure Time, Kingdom Hearts, and RWBY.
    • With Adventure Time, Jello finds that Finn, Jake, and Princess Bubblegum are unsympathetic leads, the humor is awkward and stupid, the excessive Toilet Humor is annoying, the show doesn't conclude character arcs, and it focuses too much on romantic subplots. Jello much rather prefers the stories of the tertiary cast over the main story.
    • With Kingdom Hearts, Jello believes that the series' infamous Kudzu Plot makes it basically impossible to understand, the fact that the characters seem to pull sudden plot developments out of nowhere makes it annoying, and that the Ho Yay implications between multiple characters (Sora and Riku especially) are impossible to ignore. To prove the first point, Jello replaces the word "darkness" with the word "bees" throughout the video, saying that it makes just as much sense as the actual plot.invoked
    • With RWBY, Jello finds that the show has too many plotlines that go nowhere. Jello argues that the show has too many characters and no idea what to do with any of them (especially singling out Blake as being bland and uninteresting). Jello saves most of his main criticisms for the plot, saying it takes forever for the main plot to start, tries to paint Ozpin as morally grey and fails at it, and doesn't do sufficient world building for a world that really needs it. He feels the pacing of the first three volumes is flawed such that it's best to view them all as one long season, and he then says to avoid volumes 4 and 5 altogether as they are garbage.

Given the series is primarily affectionate, would it be a notable aversion to list the unaffectionate ones?

Yes, I think that's fine.

~Adept removed all aversions from Most Writers Are Adults. Is it omnipresent enough to list aversions, like works actually written by children or teenagers?

On PlayingWith.Did You Just Have Sex, it lists under "Averted" — "Bob doesn't exist" and "Sex doesn't exist", which I find a bit odd.

Read the trope description. Most Writers Are Adults is not about "Works that are written by adults" (which is not a trope), but that fictional kids act way too maturely for their age because the adult writers can't get into a child's headspace, so they write children almost the same way they'd write adults. Most of the "aversions" listed was basically "kids acting like regular kids, instead of miniature adults" (also not a trope).

Edited by Adept on Jun 22nd 2022 at 11:08:23 PM

Are all on-page aversions of Incredibly Obvious Bug just Spy Cam? I just deleted one that was like "averted since the bug is actually well-hidden".

Edited by antenna_ears on Dec 18th 2021 at 2:14:59 AM

From Prom Is for Straight Kids, found while dewicking Schoolgirllesbians

• Averted in The Owl House episode "Enchanting Grom Fright", where nobody bats an eye at there being a gay couple in the background at Hexside's prom equivalent. Amity and Luz also attend together, though Luz was under the impression that they were simply going as friends.

I'm not sure if this aversion belongs on the page or not

Doesn’t seem like a notable aversion, so I’d say cut.

Amour Le Fou removed aversions from Animal Gender-Bender, but I think these are notable since male calico cats are listed on the page as straight examples.

• Averted in Case Closed where the rarity of a male calico cat becomes a major plot point.
• Averted in Haruhi Suzumiya with the cat Shamisen: he's a male calico because of his XXY chromosomes, and the rarity of such a cat is commented on by the characters when they find him.
• Averted in this story from Not Always Hopeless. A shopper needs an anniversary card for a same-sex couple, so the one with two brightly-colored peacocks is perfect. (Justified as the sales clerk majored in ornithology.)

Does this example from Marry Me (Bobby Crosby) count as a notable aversion?:

• I Drank What: Averted when the characters ask what they're drinking before they consume it. It turns out to be blood. They drink it anyway. Turns out that they had already drank it before, due to Parker is training for a vampire marathon.

Maybe?

Puberty Superpower lists aversions in which infants or young children have superpowers. I don't think those are notable.

Does the following example from Digimon: A Seraphic Tale look like it counts as a notable aversion?:

• Hollywood Autism: Averted with Yun. Her autism does present some problems, but for the most part she's fairly well written, and the author does her best to portray her as a fairly normal little girl with strengths, weaknesses, flaws, hobbies, and good qualities.

New York Is Only Manhattan has a huge number of aversions. Is this a trope that qualifies for listing aversions, or does it need clean up?

New York Is Only Manhattan should be merged with Big Applesauce

Lineage Comes from the Father has a lot of aversions and inversions. Are they notable?