Transformers: The Last Knight

I thought Primus was at the center of Cybertron, then again I'm going by the old "Energon" cartoon.

And wasn't Earth the center of the universe before because when the original Primes came to hide the Codex from the Fallen Earth was a really out-of-the-way place?

Well, as long as Bumblebee dies.

Because holy fuck am I sick of him.

I guess you haven't heard about the spin-off.

Rumour mill says it's a prequel. Grain of salt, mind you, grain of salt.

News to me.

Thing with Bumblebee, for me at least, is that they fixed his voice in the first film. Then he's still Sam's "pet car" who communicates mostly through gestures and mannerisms in all three films after that IIRC.

I'd have liked him a lot better if he'd only used the radio channels to mess with Sam and Mikaela during their first meeting. He's perfectly capable of speech, he just has a sense of humor and thinks it's funny to have them thinking he can only talk through radio/movie quotes.

edited 17th Apr '17 9:50:24 PM by Soble

So they finally released a clip of Hot Rod that has him speaking.

Ok is that seriously a French accent?

Cause even if its only two bits of dialogue it sounds more Scottish then French honestly.

https://youtu.be/Ue7cNNfjCyc

New trailer. Like Bumblebee's new ability.

Bay has said on Twitter that the movie will be the shortest of the last three movies, meaning it is closer to the running time of the first film. I see this as a good thing, not for the cynical "Less movie to hate" but that I felt Age of Extinction would have been significantly better if it was trimmed by a half hour.

Oh thank goodness. These things have been stupidly long for a while.

No disagreement there.

Looks like he listened to the criticism of the previous film.

As long as he had fun making the movie, I'm at least expecting it to be an entertaining popcorn flick, even if only in a Guilty Pleasure sort of manner.

Didn't Bay also say that Age of Extinction was going to be the shortest in the series, and then that movie turned out to be the longest at almost three hours? Until we get an official running time, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Bay doesn't have unilateral control over the movies. It sounds like he was overruled. You can see in the final movie a lot of padding as we get numerous scenes with a Chinese actress and a random Chinese man in an elevator coming to Joshua's rescue. These things are actually being mandated by China in compensation for helping to fund the movie, they've been pushing for more exposure for a while. Iron Man 3 had a four minute Chinese only scene for the same reason. I think The Great Wall is the culmination of this, Matt Damon and Willem Dafoe surrounded by an entirely Chinese cast.

A movie set on the Great Wall with an almost entirely Chinese cast? Most awful sight! My heart doth break.

From my understanding The Great Wall was actually the opposite. It had a Chinese director, a predominantly Chinese cast, and was filmed entirely in China but included American actors in order to appeal more to Americans.

Indeed. Matt Damon was only cast in it to open it up to other markets, and they did justify it in the story because he was a mercenary there to try and get gunpowder to take back to Europe. He helps the other Chinese protagonists, but it's definitely not an example of Mighty Whitey.

The Great Wall is a co-production with American studios, they brought in Western producers and Matt Damon to give it a Hollywood look and feel while still showcasing Chinese talent. Indonesia did the same basic thing with The Raid.

Thoughts on Doug Walker's predictions for the movie?

Never mind that!

Someone from Seibertron.com got into the London premiere of the movie and has a review for it, spoilers and everything!

In all honesty, I only read up to where it reads "BIGGER SPOILERS FROM HERE".

...I am really not sure what's going on, but I am scared AF. The review's reading like a mixed bag with good and bad, but I guess what I really want to know is:

Does everything change? Does anything change? Like, is there anything, anything at all that warrants a viewing?

Is it more of the same or does it have the mother of gut punches?

I'm one of those guys who can just watch a movie and ignore the hiccups and the screw ups. I've sat through all 4 movies, but what's the verdict on this one?

I just need a spoiler-free TL;DR on this review. Please.

I'm scared, you guys...

Dude, it's a Michael Bay Transformers movie. It's gonna be shit anyways.

Sigh...maybe I am overly freaking out like a lousy goober.

Maybe it doesn't matter.

People are talking about that review here, so whatever.

edited 19th Jun '17 1:26:41 PM by TargetmasterJoe

Why the worry? It's fucking Bayformers. It's gonna be shit. This is what, the same exact thing as the previous movies? Transformers did stuff in the past that was a major part of world history, lots of dumb product placement and racist stereotypes, explosions, bad cinematography, talented actors wasting their time by being in one of these movies because they need a paycheck, plot holes, and Optimus Prime pulling a dumb speech out of his ass about humanity and getting along and shit.

@Joe: The review says it's a Bay movie, for better or for worse, but it's self-referential and mocking in a way that helps it be a lot better than it should and it's pretty insane as far as lore implications go. The reviewer concludes its the best TF movie since the 2007 one, mostly due the actors (like Anthony Hopkins) elevating it.

Cogman's a show-stealer.

edited 19th Jun '17 1:41:21 PM by Gaon

I'll believe it when I see it.

Thank you, that's significantly relieving for me.