Ambiguous Name (Alt Names crowner 21th Feb 2015): Vampire Invitation

When a work uses vampires, it will often not have them with Looks Like Orlok. That doesn't mean the trope isn't a trait that people associate with vampires. I've never claimed it is an "always on" trait for vampires; Our Vampires Are Different is a trope because not even blood-sucking nightcrawler is an "always on" trait. It is included as a baseline trait by others, including the page Our Vampires Are Different.

What I've claimed is that the trope is more strongly associated with vampires than with any other supernatural figure, and that makes a legitimate Sub-Trope. Non-vampire characters who demonstrate the trait are compared to vampires, instead of faeries, gremlins, or hags. None of the creatures which both demonstrate this trait, and have an Our Monsters Are Different page on this site, have this trope mentioned as a default.

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edited 6th Dec '14 4:18:22 PM by crazysamaritan

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Also, for the record, the current options are 11:5 to rename the trope, and 7:7 to make the current name a Sub-Trope.

If the ratio holds for several more days, I think we'd have clear consensus.

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Ten days later and we have 15:5 in favour of a rename.

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Calling crowner

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

With the Crowner called, do we want to discuss alternate names or is everyone okay with Must Be Invited? I'm fine with the latter.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

Must Be Invited is the obvious choice. There'd need to be a pretty fantastic suggestion for it not to get my vote.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

to Must Be Invited

I'll have peace on those terms.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

Must Be Invited

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Another for Must Be Invited.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

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\+1

edited 16th Dec '14 8:37:25 PM by storyyeller

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Must Be Invited seems a very reasonable choice.

I think Must Be Invited In would be a bit more clear.

They don't always have to be invited into something though to fit this trope. Sometimes they just need to be invited to a general place, or to the vicinity of a person.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

+1 for Must Be Invited.

That's 10:1 on Must Be Invited so far.

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That seems to be enough; unless last minute objections arise, I'll star this thread with the request to rename to Must Be Invited.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

I didn't vote on this, but I do have to point out that this marks yet another move away from this wiki's beginnings. The only reason the name included "vampire" in the first place was because of this wiki starting as a Buffy fansite.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.

Or, you know, because vampires are by far the most well-known example. It's a bad name, but it's not like it was chosen at random.

So, can we move the page to Must Be Invited and start changing the wicks? Or is there anything else to consider first?

Let's just say and leave it at that.

Yes, I believe that's the action that needs to be taken.

I don't like Must Be Invited because it doesn't imply anything whatsoever about fantasy creatures. Without any context, it sounds more like a bouncer keeping someone out of an invitation-only event of some kind. I can't say whether or not this will actually create misuse, and maybe it won't, but it just sounds like a really bad trope name to me. Like, one of the worst I've ever seen.

... so maybe we do need more discussion on the name first, after all. Or at least a crowner vote.

I can see that Must Be Invited does not make clear that it is a trope about supernatural creatures.

Let's just say and leave it at that.

What about It Must Be Invited?