Pan (yet another Peter Pan origin story)

Gonna need a source for that.

There can be any number of reasons for that, however. Such as them having decided that the tribe would be fair-skinned beforehand to sidestep any Unfortunate Implications, and thus wouldn't accept actual Native-American actresses for obvious reasons.

The tribe being Caucasian-skinned in the first place is an Unfortunate Implication on itself. If you don't want your native characters to come as offensive caricatures, then all you have to do is NOT writing them that way.

If they act like typical old Hollywood Injuns and are 'white' to boot, then that's even worse, because it's a two-in-one racial slap.

Pretty much. At the very least casting an actual Native American who does a solid performance would do wonders for excusing unfortunate implications.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, it's a lose-lose situation. It's either be accused of whitewashing or accused of using horrible native-american stereotypes.

No. Its not. I already explained the reasoning earlier. You can still change them to NOT be racist stereotypes AND fill the same role as the books. They're already changing Pan and Hook's origins in this adaptation, I don't see why 'remaining faithful' is even on the table anymore.

You can't really make "the Tribe" from Peter Pan not stereotypical. Unless you decide to have the story take place on planet Earth.

Besides, this looks like a cool steam punk-y interpretation of Peter Pan's origin stories. And it's got hammy HughJackman in it, playing a pirate, no less. I don't care about the other actors.

edited 30th Nov '14 2:58:09 PM by LogoP

What he said.

Everyone should really sit down, relax, and enjoy the scenery feast Hugh Jackman is dining upon.

The piece of shit's finally out and the critics are raking it across the coals. 24% Tomatometer.

For some reason, they changed the time period to World War II and that Dickensian orphanage is actually selling children into slavery to pirates that force them to mine for pixie dust that keeps Blackbeard immortal. Peter at first thinks Neverland is Canada. Peter can fly because he's half fairy and he's the savior of the multi-cultural native tribe because he can rally them and the fairies together against the pirates. Oh and Hook never goes Heel

Also, Hugh Jackman and his child slaves sing Nirvana at one point.

edited 9th Oct '15 10:22:09 AM by FigmentJedi

... oh dear.

Error from that vid.

Was that description actually that crazy or did I just have a stroke?

EDIT: Derp, derp, a brainfart.

edited 9th Oct '15 12:08:54 PM by dRoy

this is a warner bros movie.

Oh crap, really? I automatically assumed that it was from Disney. Jesus Christ, now I feel like a complete moron. That should teach me to read things through before commenting.

Of course it's a fucking terrible movie.

It's Warner Bros reimagining Peter Pan.

Damn, and I bet people are going to be associating this movie with Disney en masse instead anyway.

It would be fun if they did like the Loisel version of the story and made Peter actually be Jack the Ripper.

We'll always have the 2003 movie, which in my opinion was actually better than Disney's.

Was it less utterly irredeemably racist than the Disney version?

It'd be kind of hard not to be.

I feel terrible that it took me so long to figure out that Hugh Jackman wasn't Johnny Depp.

Kind of apt that the movie's named "Pan", then.

There's also Hook.

Very true. That movie was on-spot.

EDIT: I was shocked to discover that this movie gets so much undeserved flak. It was a personal childhood favourite of mine.

edited 9th Oct '15 10:45:02 PM by LogoP