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Probably an index. Lamprey Mouth and Cthul Humanoid would fit under that.
Should we use YKTTW to split up the current examples? Is "Evil" and "Comical" really the best way to split them?
edited 3rd Aug '14 12:57:58 PM by crazysamaritan
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
I'm not convinced that comical or evil cephalopods are tropeworthy. Tentacles, maybe.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
There is a thing for adding tentacles to something to make it look evil/mutated/strange, but I don't think it extends to Cephalopoda in general.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Gentleman Troper!
I wasn't aware of a big project to clean up the "Everything's X With Y" snowclone family, but it appears to have missed a lot of pages.
Anyway, this page is not so much a trope as it is a "list of all squid in fiction, ever". Which basically happens on most of those pages. I'm not sure if there's any point in trying to clean them any more.
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
We've done a rather good job at cleaning up a number of "All Animal X in Fiction" pages and I see no reason to despare of cleaning this one if we can attract some participation in this thread.
Don't forget about Kraken and Leviathan.
As far as I can tell, this is just another "list of X in media" page. X = cephalopoda for this particular equation. The intro just lists some traits of cephalopods, and then some tropes associated with them - and being associated with tropes doesn't make "cephalopods", alone, into a trope, any more than the existence of tropes about dogs makes dogs themselves a trope. The laconic page ("Seems the creator loves cephalopods") doesn't reflect any idea stated on the main page. Even the title is functionally meaningless. I'd say maybe some of the examples could be scraped off into more specific existing tropes and the rest could be flushed. Unless we're going to make a trope page for every taxonomic class, anyway.
edited 25th Sep '14 11:32:09 PM by Venatius
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"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Apparently the big Everything's Better With X cleanup project got closed down before getting to this one.
Everythings Squishier With Cephalopods is "... about octopodes, squid, cuttlefish, nautiloids, and ammonites." According to the page, "Something about these animals is just plain alien... In fiction, sometimes they're horrible, mysterious denizens of the deep. Sometimes they're cute and funny. Largely this is a matter of size, but it's also true that generally the east favors the comical cephalopod while the west favors its big, evil cousin. Cephalopods live in every ocean.
The examples are soft split between Comical, Evil and Other.
I propose that we do a hard split between "Cephalopods are Evil" and "Cephalopods are Comical" (working titles only) with better descriptions. As far as Other goes, I'm open to suggestions about additional tropes that might accommodate them, but just as Rabbit Show Up is not a trope (much to my private dismay), neither is Octopus Shows Up.
It is worth noting that we already have Giant Squid.
Also, perhaps some trope can be made for tentacles being a favored element of Bizarre Alien Biology and the Eldritch Abomination.
The current title has too many inbounds to cut entirely, so it can be either turned into a disambiguation of an index.
edited 29th Jul '14 6:11:34 AM by Catbert