I wonder if we could see any of the many online reviews influenced by MST 3 K make cameos.
Hell, I wonder if any of those people are in the pool of potential third-wheels on the Joel/Mike debate.
(Spoiler: they're probably not.)
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Considering the show was good to the very end (The very last-to-air episode was Mike's personal favorite, even), I really wouldn't mind a reboot. No Seasonal Rot here.
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...Your Mileage May Vary. Personally I feel that Mike's era got progressively more cynical and mean-spirited as it went on, and I never found Bobo or Brain Guy especially funny.
That said, Hodgson seems to be the creative head of the reboot, meaning it should avoid all that.
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I'd like to see this going the Netfix route. Heck, Netflix already has the rights to several films that would be MST worthy.
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Especially with some of the more glaring examples of Netflix's... quality productions.
"What? No, Chop Kick Panda isn't related to Kung Fu Panda at all! It's totally different!" — Something pretty close to Netflix's official description of the film
Come to think of it, there's a whole shitload of cheesy CGI and animated dime a dozen films they could riff now.
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Until Netflix's rights expire and the new series releases becomes as much a debacle as the old one.
Beyond that, Hodgson was very adamant when he was doing Cinematic Titanic that they stick to the usual wheelhouse, and I can't see that changing. More than likely we're gonna be dragged through public-domain hell.
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Ah. I've never watched Titanic or Rifftrax because it would've been a hassle finding all of the dvds for the riffed movies and then syncing them and stuff, and I'm no pirate.
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x6 You say "cynical and mean spirited" as if they were bad things.
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Well different strokes, I suppose. I don't think episodes like "Overdrawn at the Memory Bank" or "Invasion of the Neptune Men" would have been as good if they didn't get angry at the movies.
That's a Netflix Original? Their relationship with Dreamworks Animation (several Netflix-exclusive shows with them) seems too good for them to be mockbusting.
Also Misty stuff.
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It's not a Netflix original, no.
Also the Kickstarter is 30% funded in the first seven hours! 
edited 10th Nov '15 4:36:14 PM by Wackd
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Here's the thing: Mike Nelson was the head writer for MST 3 K since Season 2. Without him — and without Bill Corbett or Kevin Murphy — it's not really MST 3 K. As far as I can tell, the only person from the original that's working on this is Joel Hodgson and, let's face it, he wasn't the best part of the show.
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Well, one, Corbett showed up in season six. That's seven whole years of MST 3 K that aren't "real".
Secondly, Hodgson seems to be under the impression that the show operates primarily on the Theseus' Ship Paradox, and moreover that it can only benefit from an influx of new talent. I find that hard to argue with. The show doesn't live and die on any individual member but by the sum of its parts. I trust Hodgson to pick those parts well.
That said, Hodgson's doing his best to recreate the writer's room, if not the cast.
Gonna be honest, if I had $750 sitting around, this isn't what I'd spend it on.
edited 10th Nov '15 5:09:51 PM by Wackd
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Kevin Murphy was a founding member of the show, actually. The big season two additions were Mike Nelson and Frank Conniff.
The reason the show started getting good in season two is partially because of Nelson, but honestly? The KTMA stuff was unscripted and hindered by minimal resources and frequent leaves of absence from the crew because they all had day jobs, which means going into season one they just barely knew what they were doing. Joel, Trace, Kevin and Jim all steadily improved over the course of those early years, Mike didn't just magically turn the show around despite the folks he was stuck with.
edited 10th Nov '15 8:18:07 PM by Wackd
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I know, but he was such a big part of the show that doing it without him seems...weird. Like, Rifftrax is basically MST 3 K without in-between segments (and no movie shadows) and it's awesome. But it's also Nelson, Corbett, and Murphy doing it (well, and other comedians).
Everyone's "a big part of the show" until they're not. Going forward without Joel was unthinkable. As was going forward without Frank. And Trace.
I'm gonna be honest—getting Frank in is the priority for me. He and Joel are the only people involved in program who ever seemed to genuinely like the films. I could feel their absence in the Sci-Fi years. The movies got more recent (so much 80s) and the riffs got meaner. I wasn't fond.
It's telling, I think, that Riff Trax deals primarily in blockbusters.
Perhaps I'm a bit biased. I dunno.
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I mean, hell Space Mutiny and Prince of Space were both from Season 8. ("Nooo! Not the Hitler museum! All the Hitler memorabilia! The Hitler salt and pepper shakers!") And Pumaman and Werewolf were from Season 9 ("Paul, you is a warwolf?"). And hell, Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders was from Season 10 ("Remember to believe in magic... or I'll kill you.").
See, what's clearly happened here is that you and I have very different tastes and ideas about what we want the show to be like. And that's fine! I find the Invention Exchanges hilarious (YOU BAKED A PERSON IN THERE? AN HOUR AT 350?) and think the show lost a lot of the friendly atmosphere that endeared me to the Comedy Central years after Frank left. But I don't begrudge you your opinion. I don't think the Sci-Fi years are some sort of blight on the face of the franchise or whatever. It's just a matter of opinion, y'know?
And I feel like saying that MST 3 K without the bits you like "isn't really MST 3 K" is...well, that hurt. I'm super-excited to have Joel back, and to see him steering the show in a new direction, and I like to think that if it were Mike at the helm I wouldn't be claiming this new version is fake somehow. The show is different things to different people and I think it's important to respect that.
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“I’ve talked to a bunch of fans about their lives and what MST3K means to them. I’m overwhelmed by how people took to that show. It really affected them. I thought, if enough people still love it, maybe we can bring it back.
Even avid viewers sometimes don’t realize that every major role in the show had been swapped out over time. So in my mind, the show is built to be refreshed with new people and new ideas. It’s like Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle as it applies to MST3K: If it doesn’t change, it’s not the same show. And fortunately for us, as long as there are movies, there are always going to be cheesy movies.”
From the end of this article.
Holy crap you guys.
edited 22nd Apr '14 9:47:06 PM by Wackd
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