All Purpose Frozen Fanfiction Thread

Rule 36: No matter what it is, it's somebody's fetish.

Wanna learn about fetishism?

Watch Panty And Stocking With Garterbelt.

Or don't. It's not a great teacher.

More like a very rowdy and insolent student. Still shows an impressive array, including shit, cars, boomers, vomiting, bandage, breast milk, and the cutest most adorable bukkake ever, just to name a few.

"General Scotty!" cry the soldiers, in despair.

If it weren't for him, that hill...

;_;

...out of context, that post makes no sense.

In context, it only makes slightly more.

edited 23rd Apr '15 1:41:51 AM by GeekCodeRed

I realize this is going to make me sound incredibly finicky, but does anyone think "Don't Let the Wight Bite" is a better title than "Frozen Wight," or does that sound too stupid?

I still prefer "Trials of Elsa".

I find Don't Let the Wight Bite more original than Frozen Wight, at least, but I too liked the original title as well. Then again, you're the author.

edited 23rd Apr '15 8:27:03 AM by C105

Yeah, well, I'm also really fickle, so I have a bad feeling this'll lead to a slippery slope of me constantly changing the fic title, but... I guess I'll go and change it YET AGAIN... just as soon as I'm done with all the other revisions I'm doing right now.

Actually, would "Don't Let the Frost-Wight Bite" sound better, since it better matches the original phrase? I could add in the detail that the wight's full species name is "frost-wight." ^* Even though my brother told me "ABSOLUTELY NO PUNS!"

edited 23rd Apr '15 8:38:09 AM by spashthebandragon

That last one feels a bit too long, even if it is closer to the original expression.

I thought of Beware of the frost-wight, but that one feels really too corny.

I think Trials of Elsa is better, as 1. it's a simpler and more easily accessible title ("well, this story is about Elsa, and she undergoes hardships of some sort", as opposed to "what's a wight?") 2. You have other stories with title parallelism already 3. your fanbase already knows it as "Trials of Elsa", no need to change the name, as that would be like if Amazon suddenly decided to change its name to "onlinesuperstore.com".

Lately I've been trying not to let the story's fanbase get in the way of my editing. I don't want this to be a super popular story with a crappy title.

The reason I changed it from "Trials of Elsa" is because that title is just too darn generic. I feel like it doesn't tell the audience anything about my story, specifically. "Don't Let the Frost-Wight Bite" tells the reader that 1) there's a wight in the story who's very important (And if they don't know what that is, google is a thing that exists) and 2) the story has a somewhat goofy, whimsical atmosphere and doesn't take itself seriously 100% of the time.

Point 2 is something "Frozen Wight" doesn't really convey, so that's why I'm on board with switching to "Don't Let the Frost-Wight Bite."

"Don't let the Frost-Wight Bite" actually does sound like a better title.

Okay, well, I'm gonna stick with "Frozen Wight" for the time being, mostly because I think it's a passable name and changing it AGAIN would be a hassle.

Anywho, I've finished revising the second half of Frozen Wight. The major changes start from this chapter onward, for anyone who's already read my fic. For those of you who haven't, now would be a good time to start since I've polished up the writing of the entire fic and simplified/removed a lot of plot threads I wasn't happy with.

The major changes I've made to the second half of the story were cutting down on Fritz's screentime (I like his character, but I feel like he started to overstay his welcome around part 3) and downplaying the "reverse Pygmalion Plot" between Mary the snowwoman and Elsa. The story's a lot more straightforward and less bloated now, and part 3 doesn't drag its heels the way it used to.^{note about Mary's sexuality} I'm not trying to Hide Your Gays or anything. I just didn't like the way the concept was handled in the story. The new version still makes it clear that Mary's bisexual - or, uh, humansexual, since she's a snowman- snowwoman... whatever... I dunno.

Of course, a side effect of that is that the story's now a whole lot shorter than it used to be. To be honest, I never really saw my fanfic's ridiculous length as a good thing, and I'm kinda glad I trimmed the fat a bit, even if I probably just threw away my "longest Frozen fanfic EVER!" bragging rights.

Also, if you notice any typos where words are randomly squished together or bolded or italicized in weird ways, please let me know. Those aren't my fault. It's got something to do with the way my word processor transfers with Fanfiction.net or something. As far as I can tell, the typos basically show up at random, so there's not a lot I can do to fix it short of poring over all 300,000 words... which I just got finished doing before I posted everything just now. So IT'S NOT MY FAULT, Y'HEAR ME? *shakes fist at the heavens*

Also, I'll update the Archive of Our Own version tomorrow when I'm not sleep deprived, but for now... I guess you've got a small window where you can compare the new and old versions on each website if you want?

edited 24th Apr '15 10:31:33 PM by spashthebandragon

How many words did you end up shaving off the story?

Well, before I started editing, it was at 350,000 words with 82 chapters, and now it's at 310,000 words with 78 chapters. But I didn't really remove large chunks of the story so much as I reworded things to sound more concise, removed a lot of author's notes that said things like "I'm taking a break from updating" (since that's obviously pointless now that the story's finished and all), and there were a couple scenes that were either fused with other scenes or removed entirely to make the story move along at a steadier pace. Like I said, I spent way too much time on Fritz's subplot and it made the story start to drag its heels around part 3. (For the record, part 3 used to be 27 chapters long. Now it's 23, which is closer in length to parts 1, 2, and 4.)

edited 25th Apr '15 7:56:29 AM by spashthebandragon

Alrighty, I finally found the time between finals to update the Archive of Our Own version so it matches the Fanfiction.net version. Man, posting a fic on more than one website is exhausting...

There might be a way to reuse whatever was cut, perhaps in a second timeline or an interquel.

If there was anything I really liked, I reworked into the story in other places. The only things cut or gone forever are ideas I didn't like at all.

...With one exception. Because I cut the subplot about Fritz getting fired from the royal guard, I couldn't find a natural way to work back in the detail that Fritz used to work at Oaken's Trading Post before becoming a guard. But that's gonna be shown more in the Fritz spin-off fic anyways, so it's okay.

Now Oaken doesn't get any speaking lines in my fic, though... Ah, well.

"Hoo hoo! Big dialogue blow out!"

Technically, the final word count for spash's story as of today on the Fanfiction.net link is 314,404 words (including whatever footnotes are still there).

edited 5th May '15 2:25:54 PM by dmcreif

Forgive my ignorance because I don't have access to the tie-in books like All Hail the Queen, but what is a flangendorfer supposed to be? It sounds vaguely German in origin.

It's some kind of cakey dessert. As far as I can tell, the book made it up.

The name made it sound German. If it sounds German, and looks German, it must be German, if you know what I mean.....

And I have to say, those remarks I made a long time ago about Secret Passages filling in plot holes. Maybe plot holes wasn't the right word but the author was filling in narrative gaps, like what Elsa was doing during "Love is an Open Door" or between "Let It Go" and "For the First Time in Forever (Reprise)".

And this just came up from reading Secret Passages all the way through, but to me, Anna seemed pretty accepting of Elsa's powers the moment they're revealed. Could it be that she noticed telltale clues over those thirteen years that she only pieced together in that one moment at the coronation? (I listed on headscratchers potential ideas like the temperature dropping around Elsa whenever she got upset, scared or angry, or meltwater appearing outside Elsa's bedroom). And obviously, the Secret Passages author seemed to be thinking smart when he considered that neither sister would put up with being separated from the other for 13 years no questions asked.

Perhaps Elsa's idea that one shouldn't marry someone they've just met also came from the fact that she thought it stupid for her to be betrothed to someone she's never met when her parents keep her isolated from Anna.

edited 16th May '15 2:46:29 PM by dmcreif

I know it's been a while, but something I thought I noticed about the "classy art humor" scene where the sisters are in the art gallery after they score a fortune in priceless art, when Elsa takes notice of the new version of The Swing painting. They note a man hiding in the bushes who appears to be looking up the woman's skirt.

On analysis, that appears to be a pretty accurate description of the original version of Fragonard's The Swing than the one it replaced. The original◊ indeed does have a man hiding in the bushes, who, if you look at it from some angles, does look like he's looking up her dress. I think that the sisters should also comment on how the version of The Swing that they just acquired has a Cupid statue on the left side, which wasn't in the version it replaced.

edited 7th Jun '15 7:26:47 PM by dmcreif