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Xalfrea Since: Feb, 2011
#801: Apr 17th 2015 at 2:54:01 AM

So Chapter 18 of my fic has been released last week. I do admit that I did write myself in a corner a bit with the uneven narrative, as it's the shortest chapter thus far in order to get the narrative back on track.

And it's kinda surreal now that the fic has been cited twice now as being an inspiration for two others to make their own Tangled/Frozen crossover fics.

Tangled Adventures in Arendelle now has a Tropes page!
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#802: Apr 18th 2015 at 1:34:03 AM

So I'm sure someone may have had the same idea before, but what about Frozen meets Long Live the Queen?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
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#803: Apr 18th 2015 at 3:21:48 PM

Hey, guys. So as of right now, I'm pretty happy with the first half on my ginormous fanfic, and I've moved on to revising the second half. There are going to be some major changes forthcoming, but for now I'm just polishing up the writing a bit.

Anywho, I felt like so long as I'm changing stuff up, it might be time to come up with a better title for the fic. "Trials of Elsa" is a perfectly servicable title, of course. It tells you all you need to know about the fic: Elsa's the main character, and she's going to suffer some hardships. The problem is, it seems a little too generic. Like, don't all protagonists suffer some kind of hardship? Heck, I might as well have just called the story "The Adventures of Elsa," just to make it as bland as possible.

I've been batting around some different title ideas. I think "Frozen Wight" has a nice ring to it. It's an Antagonist Title that clues the reader in that the story involves an undead monster, and it has literal meaning since the wight's a frostbitten corpse. On the downside, it doesn't make it clear that Elsa's the main protagonist (which isn't really that big a deal), and also it kinda makes it sound like this is the companion fanfic to Frozen Black or something.

"Trial by Ice" also has a nice ring to it, but when I asked my brother for advice, he said, "Absolutely no puns," so I don't know...

What do you guys think? Any suggestions?

edited 18th Apr '15 3:22:35 PM by spashthebandragon

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#804: Apr 18th 2015 at 3:59:59 PM

...dude, I named my fic after a numerical coincidence. Don't ask me. tongue

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#805: Apr 18th 2015 at 7:20:55 PM

Wight's fine.

Of course, I go for the simplistic and not always descriptive titles myself.

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spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#806: Apr 18th 2015 at 9:26:28 PM

Alright, well hopefully everyone's fine with "Frozen Wight" for Trials of Elsa and "Anatomy of a Snowwoman" for Trials of Mary because I just went through all the hassle of redirecting the trope pages and such.

Not sure what I'll name Trials of Anna whenever I get around to writing it, but I've already decided Trials of Fritz will be named Fritz: The Musical.

EDIT: Okay, all the pages seem to be redirecting fine except for dmcreif's review. Ugh, I'm too tired to figure out how redirecting reviews works right now, so if someone can help me out with that, it'd be much appreciated.

edited 18th Apr '15 9:52:48 PM by spashthebandragon

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#807: Apr 18th 2015 at 9:53:39 PM

I like the new title better. Honestly, the Anna-oriented sequel sounds like a breeding ground for many comedic possibilities, somehow involving the snowgies.

The cold never bothered me anyway
dmcreif from Novi Grad, Sokovia Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#808: Apr 18th 2015 at 9:54:28 PM

As for reviews, well, there might be a page on this website that tells you exactly how to reroute reviews.

The cold never bothered me anyway
spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#809: Apr 18th 2015 at 9:55:34 PM

[up][up]The snowgies will be very prominent in it.

And now to change all the file names on my computer... *sigh*

edited 18th Apr '15 9:55:50 PM by spashthebandragon

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dmcreif from Novi Grad, Sokovia Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#810: Apr 18th 2015 at 10:03:51 PM

The snowgies run loose and Anna has to somehow work with Kristoff to round them up....that's what I can imagine.

The cold never bothered me anyway
spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#811: Apr 18th 2015 at 10:18:55 PM

[up]Since Elsa's still sick, she'll still be making them every time she sneezes. Really, Frozen Fever gave no indication that she was gonna stop making Snowgies anytime soon...

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#812: Apr 18th 2015 at 10:32:30 PM

I presume Arendelle has something equivalent to the 25th Amendment that you're gonna invoke in that work.

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#813: Apr 19th 2015 at 7:43:53 AM

Uhhh...

I'd just like to say a pet peeve of mine (honestly, possibly pushing into red flag direction) is fics that include the original work's title in their title. Just feels... unoriginal.

Then again, I am still the person who named my fic after a numerical coincidence, and didn't remember that Thirteen is an unlucky number.

edited 19th Apr '15 7:44:03 AM by GeekCodeRed

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#814: Apr 19th 2015 at 8:32:49 AM

No interest in Long Live The Queen scenarios?

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#815: Apr 19th 2015 at 8:47:07 AM

I think we're all of the opinion that both our available princesses have been through enough trauma.

Even if we have caused more trauma ourselves.

They do have medals for almost, and they're called silver!
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#816: Apr 19th 2015 at 8:49:08 AM

[up][up][up]I feel like Frozen should get some leeway because it's a one-word title, though. AND it's an adjective, so adding a noun for it to describe seems like a natural progression.

Besides, if you didn't like the title, you had your chance to speak up. Too late now.

edited 19th Apr '15 8:49:37 AM by spashthebandragon

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#817: Apr 19th 2015 at 10:46:19 AM

Mmm.

My memory might be faulty, but isn't the reveal of everything being the wight's fault a... well, reveal?

They do have medals for almost, and they're called silver!
spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#818: Apr 19th 2015 at 10:51:11 AM

[up]The story starts using the word "wight" and setting the wight up as a major threat around chapter 7 or so. I don't really see how the title gives anything away that isn't already quickly made clear to the reader.

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#819: Apr 19th 2015 at 10:54:06 AM

...haven't read the new version of the first chapters. That might be the problem here. tongue

...really, why the hell did I call it "Thirteen"? At least it gives me sequel names...

They do have medals for almost, and they're called silver!
spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#820: Apr 19th 2015 at 10:58:49 AM

Yeah, I write by throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks, so I'm really big on retroactively changing story details. It probably makes things a little confusing for people who read the older drafts, but what can I say, I like to tinker with my writing.

edited 19th Apr '15 11:14:56 AM by spashthebandragon

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Night The future of warfare in UC. from Jaburo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
The future of warfare in UC.
#821: Apr 19th 2015 at 11:10:54 AM

Honestly any scenario for successful coups in Arendelle is silly anyways. Only the princesses have any kind of legitimacy as rulers; you can't just waltz in and expect people to obey you, you have to make a case for it. Elsa has a better one than anyone else, and after her it's her sister, and after that it's...nobody. Plus after the stuff Hans pulled I don't fancy the chances of the locals accepting a foreign ruler anytime soon.

Nous restons ici.
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#823: Apr 19th 2015 at 12:28:59 PM

You make it sound like Arendelle has no nobility, backstabbing or not. There's also the military and bourgeoisie to account for. Their approaches might be much more subtle than murder, especially if the princesses are unskilled.

Foreign threats are less about coups than they are about outright invasion. Especially if other nations also have folk with supernatural powers.

At any rate, such a fic would focus on the time between the parents' death and the coronation. A closed castle? Who ran the country?

edited 19th Apr '15 12:29:48 PM by TheHandle

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The future of warfare in UC.
#824: Apr 19th 2015 at 12:36:46 PM

Yeah, see, we actually see Arendelle's military, and it's about a dozen guys. As for other nobility, you're arguing it's there like...well, like it's there; I encourage you to point it out, because it's not obvious.

Arendelle's a pocket kingdom, like Monaco. I wouldn't expect much nobility at all.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#825: Apr 19th 2015 at 12:39:29 PM

Given the way the movie happens, it seems like the royal family of Arendelle consisted exclusively of the royal couple and their two daughters. No uncles, no cousins, no nobility. Then again, I regularly wonder how big Arendelle is actually. If it's a pocket kingdom, it could be justified to have a reduced royal family, but I bet even Monaco has a more extended family than that.

edited 19th Apr '15 12:39:41 PM by C105

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