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Deadlock Clock: Aug 1st 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#26: Apr 2nd 2014 at 10:20:55 AM

I'm in favor of #18 so far.

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#27: Apr 2nd 2014 at 10:23:59 AM

"Can't be illustrated by a solitary image, needs a collage" sounds like giving up to me.

Could be better, but could be worse:

edited 2nd Apr '14 10:26:46 AM by rodneyAnonymous

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#28: Apr 4th 2014 at 7:16:59 PM

Alice, from the touhou fighting games. Someone suggested Kankuro a page back, so I tried to find something for that too.

edited 4th Apr '14 7:35:21 PM by SUNflwr

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#29: Apr 4th 2014 at 8:28:23 PM

I like those. I think the strings make a nice visual shorthand.

Buuuuut I am someone who's familiar with both works, so I'll wait for further opinions.

edited 4th Apr '14 8:28:29 PM by Enlong

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#30: Apr 4th 2014 at 9:14:23 PM

28.1 is more clear. The second one would be good, but it's harder to tell at first, and they aren't fighting. I vote for 28.1.

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#31: Apr 5th 2014 at 12:37:36 AM

I prefer 28.2, since 28.1 does not indicate the "controlled by one person" aspect - mere similarity suggests a lot of things but not the one we are looking for here.

I do not like any of the images on the first page, really.

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#32: Apr 5th 2014 at 3:02:28 PM

28.2 is more Marionette Master than this trope. 28.1 gets a [tup] pending something else.

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#33: Apr 7th 2014 at 7:56:39 PM

[up] The two tropes overlap pretty heavily in fighting games. I'd vote 28.2 as a good replacement for the current image on that page though, but I like 28.1 for this one.

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#34: Apr 7th 2014 at 8:05:49 PM

[up] I tend to agree with making a change to Marionette Master for 28.2.

edited 7th Apr '14 8:10:10 PM by Willbyr

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#35: Apr 8th 2014 at 3:14:14 AM

I think 28.2 is better than the current image of Marionette Master

peasant Since: Mar, 2011
#36: Apr 12th 2014 at 2:32:08 AM

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Didn't realise this trope was video game specific.

edited 12th Apr '14 2:35:23 AM by peasant

KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#37: Apr 12th 2014 at 4:46:44 AM

I think we must be careful of doing the trope literally - it's about controlling two characters at once, not just controlling puppets.

The trope might be more easily confused for being specific to player Marionette Master characters who turns out to have an army of puppets that she can control to help her in her game.

Anyway, I think a screenshot of a character select screen, but with the Puppet Fighter "character" highlighted in some way, would be a good idea, like the Ice Climbers from Super Smash Brothers Melee?

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(We may need to circle the Ice Climbers' portrait to show that they're there, or at least someone could take a screenshot of them choosing the Ice Climbers.)

edited 12th Apr '14 4:49:07 AM by KarjamP

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#38: Apr 12th 2014 at 5:44:22 AM

[up]That looks like just a character selection scene. Where is the "puppet"?

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#39: Apr 12th 2014 at 6:04:12 AM

[up]I said we highlight the Ice Climbers in some way, like circling them or someone here taking a screen shot of a character select screen but with them selected as the character instead of Mario.

Okay, originally found it difficult to find a screenshot without the Ice Climbers selected, but now, I've discovered one.

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#40: Apr 13th 2014 at 2:59:50 PM

I don't think that works well at all. It's not as good as, say, a shot of them in the battle itself, and I'd find it hard to back even that.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#41: May 3rd 2014 at 2:05:38 PM

Bumping due to inactivity.

I think 28.1 would be good, but I still think there could be better examples. I was trying to find some good examples from the 90s Jojo's game, but the best I could find are this and this, and those would probably not be clear enough.

edited 3rd May '14 2:05:49 PM by Nap1100

CourierKnew Since: Mar, 2011
#42: May 24th 2014 at 7:53:56 PM

I like the idea of using Alice from Touhou, but I'm not in favor of the suggested screenshot. I feel like something like this or this would be a bit better, seeing that it's more immediately clear where the puppets are coming from and what they're being used for.

edited 24th May '14 7:54:48 PM by CourierKnew

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#43: May 24th 2014 at 9:28:32 PM

[up] Oh I like the first pic there. You can see the strings attached to the dolls.

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#44: May 25th 2014 at 2:19:10 AM

I suggest that if we find a good picture that does not involve puppets, then we don't use those Alice pictures due to fear that they're too literal for fear people may confuse this trope with fighters who just happen to also be Marionette Masters.

(Not to say that they're not an example of this trope, but the fact that the name of this trope includes the word "puppet" in means that the picture may increase the chance of people getting confused into thinking that puppets are the only thing involved in this trope, and that characters that don't involve puppet, but are still this trope (like Rosalina and Luma in Super Smath Brothers 4 as well as the Ice Climbers).)

edited 25th May '14 2:27:51 AM by KarjamP

realhawaiianice Since: Jul, 2011
#45: May 25th 2014 at 4:18:58 PM

More suggestions:

edited 25th May '14 4:19:32 PM by realhawaiianice

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#46: May 25th 2014 at 5:48:28 PM

[up] That first one's pretty cool but I dunno if it'll look good at wiki size.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#47: May 25th 2014 at 7:41:50 PM

I don't really think Olimar would count as an example anyway. It shows him weaponizing plant people, it doesn't show the "remote control" aspect of the trope.

Images for Ken and Koromaru just came out for P4AU, maybe they could work. You can see Ken attacking and Koromaru blocking. Only issue is it might be a bit too busy.

edited 25th May '14 7:43:28 PM by Nap1100

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#49: May 26th 2014 at 10:56:37 AM

Nevermind; changed my mind.

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edited 26th May '14 11:03:05 AM by Lakija

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KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#50: May 27th 2014 at 12:26:44 AM

@47: You'd have to look carefully in order to see the second character, as otherwise, said character just looks like part of the scenery.

@48: You can't see that Zelda's the second player character that you control alongside Link, there.

@49: Just looks like a wolf assisting in on a attack.

Admittedly, the Alice pics are nice, the reason why I don't want to use it because it may cause confusion for being literal to the trope name.

edited 27th May '14 12:27:39 AM by KarjamP


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