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Okay, every topic that has even remotely to do with the middle east keeps getting more general news put into it which removes focus from the original topic.

As such, I'm creating this thread as a general middle east and north africa topic. That means anything to do with the Arab Spring, Israel or Palestine should be kept to those threads and anything to do with more generic news (for example, new Saudi regulations on the number of foreign workers or the Lebanese elections next year, etc.) should be posted here.

I hope the mods will find this a clear enough statement of intent to open the thread.

Mod edit: The Israel and Palestine thread has been locked since October 2023. Discussion about Palestine and/or Israel remains off-topic for this thread.

Edited by Mrph1 on May 11th 2024 at 2:19:57 PM

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#551: Jul 1st 2015 at 3:30:02 PM

Trust me when I say that there's little to nothing on there that would interest you. And even if there is, it's almost certainly 0.1 on a scale of 0 to 5 of how interesting it is.

edited 1st Jul '15 3:30:12 PM by MarqFJA

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#552: Jul 1st 2015 at 3:33:40 PM

News and entertainment coming from repressed societies tend to be meh at best.

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#553: Jul 1st 2015 at 3:37:00 PM

I don't mean to be rude to someone that I'm soliciting favors from, but I'm not asking for a review or recommendation. :/

edited 1st Jul '15 3:37:25 PM by SolipSchism

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#554: Jul 1st 2015 at 3:41:50 PM

Duly noted. Just don't say I didn't warn you.

And no, I don't know of any way to watch a subtitled version of the channels' content. AFAIK it's strictly broadcast within the country's borders, unlike all the satellite-based channels such as MBC. The only explicitly Saudi-based channel that is aired via satellite is Al Ekhbariya, which is nothing but a spin-off of the state-run TV news outlet.

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#555: Jul 1st 2015 at 3:46:34 PM

Hmph. That's inconvenient.

How likely are this guy's programs to be released on any kind of physical media after the show is finished airing, like Blu-rays or DVDs or VHS, or maybe even just hosted online? Are there any websites where people sub Arabic-language media in English (as opposed to the plethora of people subbing Japanese-language works in English)?

It just suddenly struck me that I've never watched any Arabic-language entertainment media, nor do I have any idea if there even is any in the English-speaking world, or how to find it.

edited 1st Jul '15 3:47:25 PM by SolipSchism

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#556: Jul 1st 2015 at 7:32:18 PM

You can forget about physical media; apparently the people who work on live-action series in the Gulf region don't believe that such media are suitable for anything other than "children's cartoons" (i.e. all sorts of animated works, mostly imports from Europe, Japan, and the US).

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#557: Jul 1st 2015 at 9:29:08 PM

Man, that's really discouraging. But it does help explain my sudden realization that Arabic language media is really rare in America. That's... Saddening.

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#559: Jul 2nd 2015 at 3:18:35 PM

Can this guy be the next Saudi King, cause that'd be cool.

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#560: Jul 2nd 2015 at 3:48:14 PM

... Well, that was totally unexpected of him.

[up] I wouldn't be so sure of him having any remotely altruistic intentions behind this move. It's not too farfetched that he's doing this as a an F-U to relatives that would otherwise inherit that money, or that he's doing it solely as a PR move.

edited 2nd Jul '15 3:50:03 PM by MarqFJA

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#561: Jul 2nd 2015 at 3:51:28 PM

PR or family drama aside, that money will help people regardless of the motive. I'm assuming the charity is legit, the guy does have a good reputation on that front.

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#562: Jul 9th 2015 at 5:51:07 PM

Prince Saud al-Faisal, former Saudi Foreign Minister (and longest serving in such a position until two months ago) has died.

So I guess he really did retire for health reasons...

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#564: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:22:49 PM

I'll be quite surprised if that obsession isn't mutual. They're the two major regional powers around so it's to be expected. (Israel is also a very important regional power but these two are basically more powerful in most ways over the long-term.)

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#565: Jul 28th 2015 at 3:53:45 PM

Could climate change be the Arab world's biggest threat?

A heat wave in Russia may have been the catalyst behind the Arab Spring. What happens if the world's major food exporters – the United States and Europe – are faced with a long-term drought?

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In December, delegates from around the world will meet at the United Nations conference on climate change in Paris. The hope is that the global community will achieve an agreement that would limit global warming, ensuring that global temperatures do not rise more than 2 degrees Celsius beyond pre-industrial era temperatures.

Unfortunately, Earth's climate does not seem to be impressed by conferences. It has been 20 years since the first United Nations Climate Change Conference in Berlin and 18 years since the Kyoto Protocol, but atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide – the main greenhouse gas – has increased at an accelerating pace. Never in the history of the human species has there been so much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

No country will be spared the consequences of climate change, but data indicates that nations in the Middle East and North Africa are by far the most vulnerable. Yet, judging from their positions at climate change conferences, it would appear their leaders are largely ignorant of this key risk to their future. One would expect Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Syria and other arid countries to put all their weight behind proposals to limit climate change. But instead, they negotiate alongside countries with little climate consciousness such as China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan and Bangladesh, as part of the Like Minded Group of Developing Countries.

Why is the Arab world the most vulnerable to global warming? For a whole complex of serious reasons: It is already extremely arid and mostly desert, and is heavily dependent on imported food to sustain its fast-growing population. According to the UN Food and Agriculture Organization, all Arab countries – from Morocco in the west to Oman in the east – had to import more than half of the calories needed to feed their people even before 2010. Since then, the situation has worsened: The most extreme seems to be Yemen, whose 26 million people are already 90% dependent on imported food.

Climate change-induced droughts will make situation much worse. Some 400 million people in the Arab world are fully dependent on food – wheat in particular - imported from the United States, Canada, EU, Ukraine, Russia, Argentina, Australia and a handful of other countries in moderate climate zones. All of them are already exposed to the effects of climate change, a process that will continue. When an unprecedented heatwave hit western Russia and destroyed one-third of the Russian harvest in 2010, global food prices increased 40% within the next 7 months, triggering what is now known as the Arab Spring. When a similar event – or, even worse, a long-term drought – hits the United States, the most significant wheat and corn exporter in the world, the increase in global food prices will be even worse. In the worst case, a bad harvest in the United States, Canada or Europe will trigger a famine in a large part of the Arab world.

There is no guarantee that even a radical, fast reduction in greenhouse gas emissions may stop further warming of our planet. Science does not have a solid answer, and models suggesting that only a 2 degree Celsius increase is still possible may be overly optimistic. We may well be already committed – and some say we actually already are – to a much greater increase in global temperatures than we want to consider: temperatures similar to those in the Pliocene period, 3 million years ago, when atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations were similar to current levels but global temperatures were 3 to 4 degrees Celsius warmer, and sea levels were 5 to 40 meters higher than they are now.

This is not an argument for giving up serious and quick cuts in greenhouse gas emissions, but the upcoming UN climate change conference in Paris may well be our last chance. Arab countries can and should contribute much more to such efforts. They can do it on a diplomatic field, joining progressive negotiation groups such as Alliance of Small Island States, which is demanding much more radical global action than is currently under consideration. And they also can significantly reduce their own emissions. After all, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are among the 20 largest emitters of greenhouse gases per capita. At the same time the Arabian Aquifer System, on which the remaining food production of Gulf countries depends, is already the most overstressed in the world, and their capacity to produce food is shrinking fast. Leaders of the Arab world may feel that as long as they have oil, they are safe. It is an illusion. The story of 26 million Yemenis teetering on the brink of famine should warn them all.

Juraj Mesík is a former specialist with the World Bank. He teaches about global challenges at Comenius University in Slovakia and Palacky University in the Czech Republic.

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#568: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:34:10 PM

U.S. culture, from fast food to actors, seeps into Iran

Tehran, Iran — Shortly after Iran reached a nuclear deal with world powers, a local newspaper in Tehran published an image that many outside the country would take for granted: An American actor hawking an expensive watch.

But John Travolta’s blue eyes staring out of the advertisement, which showed him sitting next to NASA’s X-15 experimental rocket jet on a California runway, offered a dose of Americana rarely seen since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. And soon, there could be even more.

Businesses worldwide want to get into Iran, home to some 80 million people, oil and gas reserves and a sizable middle class craving U.S. brands. Though hard-liners worry that could corrupt the Islamic nation, others have opened their minds to the idea of having them around.

“We have had economic dealings with the United States in the past,” said Mohsen Jalalpour, head of Iran’s Chamber of Commerce. “Americans are very interested in some Iranian goods and some American goods are popular with Iranians as well. Popularity of the brands and this background can be helpful.”

Hundreds of thousands of Iranians call the U.S. home. Those still in Iran have exposure to America through bootleg DV Ds and television shows streamed online via virtual private networks allowing them to get around Internet censors. Those who can afford it can make the quick flight to Dubai, where nearly every global brand has a presence.

But the nuclear deal, which would lift sanctions in exchange for restrictions on Iran’s atomic program, would open even more doors. In April, even Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said the nuclear talks with the U.S. might lead to negotiations about other issues in the future.

That’s a departure from the decades of suspicion between the two countries. Iranians long despised the U.S. for being involved in the 1953 coup that overthrew its elected prime minister and installed the Western-backed shah. For the U.S., anger over the embassy hostage crisis that saw 52 Americans held for 444 days still lingers.

But now, under the nuclear deal, businesses are looking at Iran as a major market. And those within want more access to products like iPhones, said Amir Rezvani, the sales manager of Vaghaye Gostare Fars Co., which imports Apple devices.

“Iranian people would welcome Apple and they love Apple products,” Rezvani said. “I believe the entrance of such companies to Iran will benefit the people and at the same time, bring great profits for these companies.”

Apple had no comment when asked about potential plans for Iran.

Even Mc Donald’s Corp., whose golden arches have yet to be raised in Iran, has an online application for those interested in franchise opportunities in the Islamic Republic. Mc Donald’s says it has not “set a firm date” for expanding there, but some hard-liners are warning of a coming red-white-and-blue cultural invasion. A rumor of a Mc Donald’s opening in Tehran in 1994 saw the site burned down.

“Let’s be careful that Americans do not replace sanctions with sandwiches,” said Ezzatollah Zarghami, a hard-liner who once presided over Iran’s state broadcasting company.

Mc Donald’s declined to comment on its plans for Iran. But even now, a knock-off version of Mc Donald’s — “Mash Donald’s” — exists in Tehran, selling burgers and fries. And its owner welcomes the competition.

“They should be allowed to come,” restaurateur Hassan Padiav said. “What is the reason for all the opposition? Nothing bad would happen.”

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#569: Aug 13th 2015 at 7:50:50 AM

Saudi Arabia may go bankrupt before the US oil industry buckles Can't repost it all here, since there are a lot of graphics.

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#570: Aug 13th 2015 at 8:43:12 AM

Saudi Arabia will blink before that happens.

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#571: Aug 15th 2015 at 7:25:31 AM

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America going for the cultural victory, I see.

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Can they, though? Saudia's economy is a bad joke, resembling nothing so much as a medieval state transplanted into the industrial age. When only 30% of your adult population actually bothers to work and your have 10 million foreigners working in your country of 24 million people...you're pretty much fucked when you run out of cash.

edited 15th Aug '15 10:16:21 AM by Achaemenid

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#572: Aug 15th 2015 at 11:47:08 AM

They've been enacting a plan to reduce the foreign population since 2008. Takes time though, obviously. And like all the gulf states, they've been diversifying into services as of late.

So yeah, it's a joke, but that doesn't mean Riyadh isn't trying to address the problem.

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#573: Aug 15th 2015 at 8:31:47 PM

Mauritania introduces new Anti Slavery law Still can't believe it took them until the 1980's to abolish slavery, and even then it seems they only went for half measures. It makes me feel better about my countries horrifyingly late date for abolition, 1865.

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#574: Aug 16th 2015 at 4:03:25 AM

Article from a Libyan journalist who has visited Tripoli in June/July 2015 about the situation in Libya

It seems the biggest problems are the lack of security and qualified people.

Lazy and pathetic.
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#575: Aug 16th 2015 at 4:05:31 AM

[up] The qualified people have travelled to the other side of the Med.

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