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I haven't even read JL 3001, I'm just bitter that the Legion got bumped for Generation Xerox.

...although the Legion did need a break, in fairness.

edited 28th Apr '16 6:01:18 PM by TheEvilDrBolty

Maybe it's because nobody could make sense of the Legion anymore.

True facts. I feel like they're not a lost cause, just that they badly needed a long enough break that whoever wrote them next had the option of just saying "fuck it, we're moving on."

New 52 Batman and the X-Men show that a nonsensical continuity does not, itself, drive readers away. Constant patch jobs that draw attention to the confusion, continuity fixup at the expense of narrative, and weak "everything you knew was a lie" reveals, on the other hand, kill a property dead in high enough doses.

And while I know they've had a ton of good stories the Legion are also IMO one of the downright cheesiest properties DC has, especially those codenames...

Everything about them positively screams "We originated in a young-readers title from the Silver Age!"

Which is the other problem. Instead of embracing the later additions to the team (White Witch, Blok, Wildfire, Tellus), or embracing the silliness and cheese, DC keeps trying to go serious space opera with the Silver Age originals.

I know the Legion has its fans, but I'd personally be fine if they just weren't ever used again. They're a major turn off for me whenever they appear in anything.

I tried reading all of the legion books, and my god I just can't get past the 5yl arc. everything is so dark and confusing.

Comic Book Questions Answered: When did Batman and Catwoman first kiss?

Jason is back to stealing wheels.

They had changed it? What kid would dare steal from The Batman? Other than potential Robin material. For some reason, I really like the way Batman and Superman were BF Fs in the Siver Age world's finest series.

Next Death Battle is Flash vs Quicksilver. This isn't even a contest.

Supergirl coming to Lego Dimensions.

Edit: CBR gave Batman #51 5 Stars. Finish the sentence "Gotham is..." with three words or less.

edited 29th Apr '16 2:43:18 PM by LordofLore

From the 70's on, the Legion existed in it's own little pocket. It was born as a back-up feature for Superboy, and never really branched out beyond that, until it got it's own title in the 70's and became further insulated. It's never really felt like a part of the DC Universe at large, Not to say that, necessarily, that's a bad thing. The Legion has a sizable fandom; it might in fact work better, if they don't intend to integrate the Legion into the greater DCU, to keep them as a separate entity.

The Five Years Later arc is what you get when Legion fans (a fanboy and a fangirl, in fact) get their hands on a title officially and set out to make canon as many fanfics and headcanons as they can get away with, and they have an editor who says "What the hell, sales are down. Do what you want."

No way Quicksilver can win. His super-speed is directly limited by his own biology. He is naturally fast though he has physical limits. The Flash is powered by a dimension of pure speed that only grows stronger with each step he takes making his powers functionally limitless. Flash's got this one in the bag.

Unless they use a loophole and put it outside of the DC Universe where the Speed Force doesn't exist.

They would have to create a battery for the Speed Force to connect him to the DC Universe.

Oh yeah your right, I never thought of that.

Shit what if they give the win the to Quicksilver cause he is naturally fast or some shit like that?

yeah if it's any dc related verse Flash wins, but if it's a marvel or even neutral multiverse Pietro would win.

Unless it is Jay Garrick since he had powers before the Speed Force existed.

But the image they used was Barry Allen.

Jay has both a metagene (DC's answer to Marvel's mutants, basically) and the Speed Force, yeah. Without the Speed Force he maxes out at "only" the speed of sound.

Character designs.

Flash artist passes away.

Edit: Frank Cho to draw 24 covers for Wonder Woman.

edited 30th Apr '16 8:08:16 AM by LordofLore

Does the Speed Force exist within the DC Universe, or is it it's own universe? Given that it's extra-dimensional, I don't imagine it would matter where the Flash was, or what universe he was in, unless someone contrived a way to block his access to it (however it is he accesses it).

The Speed Force is kind of like the Green and the Red — it's intrinsically connected to the DC Universe and only a few people are connected to it. Pre-New 52, the Speed Force was actually retroactively created by Barry Allen (it's a long story).

Funny enough it seems to have existed in the Marvel universe at one point. I pointed out in the Death Battle thread that a guy called Buried Alien won a race vs the fastest people Marvel had and the guy was one big Barry homage(COIE had just happened and the Buried guy was implied to be Barry who ended up transported to 616 instead of dying).

Batman character design with notes.

edited 30th Apr '16 11:47:12 AM by LordofLore

Another strange dimension known to exist is the one the Atoms send their mass to when they shrink. Ryan Choi was able to survive Deathstroke's attack by sending his consciousness there right before his body expired. Who knows what other uses it might have?

x4 In the Post-Flashpoint multiverse the Speed Force Wall is the boundary which separates the 52 Earths from the "Sphere of the Gods" which houses Apokolips, Underworld/Phantom Zone, Dream, Heaven, New Genesis, Skyland, Nightmare, and Hell.

Here is the map of the Multiverse◊

edited 30th Apr '16 11:51:01 AM by Halberdier17