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Thnikkafan ? from Faroe Islands (not really) Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#551: Nov 8th 2015 at 5:31:15 PM

So, what's Cho'gall's downside?

EDIT because it's a pagetopper.

edited 8th Nov '15 5:31:43 PM by Thnikkafan

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#552: Nov 8th 2015 at 5:52:22 PM

One is that he takes up two slots on your team, right?

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#553: Nov 8th 2015 at 5:55:21 PM

Controlled by 2 players means that you have to be on top of your sync with the other player. It will not help if you two keep arguing instead of working together. Worse, if Cho DC'd, then Gall will be stuck in an AI body.

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#554: Nov 8th 2015 at 6:19:10 PM

[up][up]and[up]

Are the Downsides to him. He is the most powerful single hero in the game, But he takes up two slots and requires a good deal of coordination.

Quick note if Cho does end up dropping. His AI is made so that he will always obey Galls pings.

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#555: Nov 8th 2015 at 6:38:54 PM

However, if that is the case, they still have to deal with Damn You, Muscle Memory!. You usually Right Click to move, using Alt Click to move might ruin it.

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#556: Nov 8th 2015 at 7:47:03 PM

[up][up] There's also been reports of AI Gall being damn good at aiming.

But yeah, what makes Cho'gall so mind-blowing is how he/they completely break how one picks a character in this genre. To recap what I've heard so far:

  • Cho'gall cannot be selected in standard solo queue.
  • Cho'gall can only be picked in ranked/draft in a phase that has two people picking at once, and both must commit to the pick. And naturally banning one bans the other.
  • Cho'gall will most definitely be excluded from ARAM Arena, because it'd be anti-fun even if they got it to work.

So yeah. Most unique MOBA character ever, and God knows how anybody manages to top that.

edited 8th Nov '15 7:47:45 PM by Watchtower

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#557: Nov 8th 2015 at 7:51:11 PM

[up] maybe they add a Hydra character that is controlled by the ENTIRE Team. Imagination is fun...

Anyone thinks Hearthstone can get some representation? I know it's the same universe as Warcraft but imagine some of the most popular characters.

For example, i imagine Dr. Boom as the HOTS version of the Techies or hell, Jaraxxus being the Eredar chosen instead of Kil'jaeden or Archimonde. [lol]

edited 8th Nov '15 7:51:34 PM by fasoman1996

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#558: Nov 8th 2015 at 8:00:19 PM

I know nothing of Blizzard characters, but I'll admit the Innkeeper guy from Hearth Stone would get me pumped. Like I've said, I like the off-beat picks, and I could just imagine him going Yu Gi Oh on everyone's ass.

And it's probably been mentioned a lot before, but I'm surprised they haven't thrown in Leeroy Jenkins yet. It's not like they've hesitated milking it before, and it's easy money and players in the bank.

Also, thanks to Total Biscuit, I am prepared to face the mighty Millhouse Manastorm.

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#559: Nov 8th 2015 at 8:17:21 PM

[up] If E.T.C. was allowed as a character, then Leeroy Jenkins is a given. I don't know how the Inkeeper can be implemented.

However, it would be Hilarious if they add The Grim Patrons as a Zerg Rush type of Characters.

I'm noticing that Blizzard seems to be giving the more obscure characters of Warcraft a chance. I mean Greymane is a Worgen and we all know what Happenned to them. I expect a Draenei soon then (Most likely Yrel)

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#560: Nov 8th 2015 at 8:25:35 PM

I think at some point we're gonna get The Inkeeper. That'll be in for the HS representation, but he's gonna have moves where he summons creatures from the game as minions to fight for him.

I think that Archimonde would be picked over either of the other EREDAR LORDS OF THE BURNING LEGION, what with being the final boss of Warcraft3 and all. I do think he's gonna have some kind of skin and some lines referring to Jaraxxus.

edited 8th Nov '15 8:33:01 PM by Thnikkafan

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#561: Nov 9th 2015 at 12:08:47 AM

[up]Archimode was also the final boss of the last World Of Warcraft expansion.

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#562: Nov 9th 2015 at 12:25:20 AM

Blizz said at Blizzcon that they have a list of over 200 characters that they want to add to hots it's just a matter of priorities and unique gameplay to them.

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#563: Nov 9th 2015 at 1:35:10 AM

This might be old but in this promotion picture of the Arena has some possible teaser of future heroes to come.

There's a magical wand/staff on the bottom, near Nova's rifle, which might hint that after the trio now, it'd be the D3 Wizard (again, like my video suggests, I am damn hoping it will be exactly Li-Ming...)

And on the ground in the left, there are two daggers: either they are poisoned, or one of them empowered with Fel magic. This opens up with how the next hero might be of the Rogue class from WoW, and the choice fell between either Garona Halforcen or Valeera Sanguinar (while as much as I want Valeera in, Garona has a big chance as she's something of a fan favorite, and she'll bring further diversity solely by being a female Orc, and... wasn't she around the very first WC game? With Blizz's tendency to put nostalgia heroes, it gives more boost to Garona. Valeera already had her time to shine in Hearthstone.)

Or failing that, it's a Poison-build D2 Necromancer.

edited 9th Nov '15 1:37:45 AM by ChrisX

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#564: Nov 9th 2015 at 7:27:06 AM

I was thinking about Warcraft rogues and how to distinguish either of the options from Zera, since he's currently got the "sneak around and backstab people" role down pat.

I was thinking of making them a sort of melee specialist with the constant stealth but focusing on disruption - blinding, hamstringing, knocking out of place, etc. - the exact person you don't want to see pop up between you and safety when you've got a Raynor on your tail.

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#565: Nov 9th 2015 at 7:40:58 AM

Actually looking at the photo, Both daggers look different. That might mean that Both Garona and Valeera have a chance (The poisoned daggers are Valeera's weapon of choice)

So it's warcraft turn after the release of two starcraft characters. Judging from Tracer's announcement, i think next batch could be Retro ones (Hopefully Blackthorne is feautured)

And after that maybe Diablo's Wizard will be finally announced.

edited 9th Nov '15 7:42:03 AM by fasoman1996

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#566: Nov 9th 2015 at 7:46:57 AM

It's hard to say Warcraft has a "turn" when it's already dominating half the roster and can easily go further. tongue

Who do they even have as retro choices? Sure, there's Blackthorne, and maybe one or two guys from Rock N Roll Racing, but it doesn't sound to me like a big well to dip into.

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#567: Nov 9th 2015 at 1:58:32 PM

I should mention that the other dagger actually belonged to Nazeebo, he usually carries one, he's also a poison expert before Lunara, and one of the daggers have spiders nearby, and you know Nazeebo summons spiders.

Others would protest that Valeera's daggers have an unique shape instead of merely glowing green of fel magic, so that dagger might not be Valeera. The Warcraft movie is also coming soon, thus Garona might be there to promote it.

Also, if you notice, Overwatch releases at mid 2016, and Greymane, the last hero, is probably going to be released at January, so I think it's not about 'other universe' batch next, Tracer is still going to wait until around the day her game is coming.

edited 9th Nov '15 2:01:08 PM by ChrisX

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#568: Nov 9th 2015 at 7:36:49 PM

Look on the website. It doesn't say "Other", it says "Retro". As in, games from their retro days before their Big 3 (as one can call them).

When Tracer comes in, I'm fully banking on them creating a completely separate category just for Overwatch. And honestly, considering it's current roster, it can compete well enough.

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#569: Nov 9th 2015 at 7:41:36 PM

If we are going to get someone else from Overwatch, I personally want to see Lucio and Mcree get to the Nexus. But the most likely hero besides Tracer might be Phara.

I imagine that "JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE!" is going to reach Memetic Mutation similar to "FEEL THE HATRED OF TEN THOUSANDS FEEDS YEARS!"

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#570: Nov 9th 2015 at 8:45:31 PM

I'm hoping for Zenyatta.

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#571: Nov 9th 2015 at 10:14:00 PM

@Watchtower: Okay, in that case, gimme some non-licensed retro games Blizzard made... that is not Blackthorne or Rock N Roll Racing. And Lost Vikings.

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#572: Nov 9th 2015 at 10:24:58 PM

Reaper cause shotguns are awesome. evil grin

edited 9th Nov '15 10:25:09 PM by slimcoder

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#573: Nov 9th 2015 at 10:43:54 PM

Judging from fan favourites of Overwatch, Zarya might be a close second after Tracer. Did we have any gameplay about tracer?

Does anyone have idea when they plan to announce Zul'jin? or in which unite is he suppossed to be based from (Judging from his Model, i Assume he would have a similar fighting style like the Jungle Trolls, So another Assassin)

edited 9th Nov '15 10:49:38 PM by fasoman1996

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#574: Nov 9th 2015 at 10:51:35 PM

WC or World Of Warcraft Zul'jin? WC Zul'jin would be a basic assassin, the one armed World Of Warcraft Zul'jin invoked the Amani animal spirits for various Ao E and CC effects in addition to hitting the tank hard for a pretty unique boss fight.

The latter would make a good character, block an enemy's chance to escape via fire tornado and get in close to murder the guy via a cat pounce.

edited 9th Nov '15 10:53:41 PM by Memers

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#575: Nov 9th 2015 at 10:55:41 PM

[up] [[http://heroesofthestorm.wikia.com/wiki/Zul'jin This is how Zul'jin is Suppossed to look like]] and i think they will avoid using Wow Zul'jin since he wasn't well received (He is as bad as Kael'thas of Shafted department)

I have to look up Blizzard history to see if i can find some obscure retro game that isn't Blackthorne.

Secret Cow from cow level when?

Edit: Then goddamn link is broken but you can manually search for Zul'jin model somewhere.

edited 9th Nov '15 10:57:07 PM by fasoman1996

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