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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1: Aug 20th 2013 at 2:03:16 PM

It looks just like the wall of a warehouse. It doesn't look like a computer at all.

EDIT: Plus, if it's Deep Thought, then it wouldn't even qualify since it wasn't even a Master Computer, just a monolithic supercomputer. It didn't really run anything.

edited 20th Aug '13 2:05:20 PM by Larkmarn

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#2: Aug 20th 2013 at 2:09:21 PM

I say pull it. It doesn't look like much at all.

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#3: Aug 20th 2013 at 2:13:13 PM

It looks like a computer for me, but yeah the visual is not unambiguous.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#4: Aug 20th 2013 at 3:26:33 PM

Bad image. Pull.

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#5: Aug 20th 2013 at 5:23:39 PM

+1 to pull for ambiguity and quality. I'm having a devil of a time finding good options...maybe this?

[down] That was one of the concerns I had.

edited 20th Aug '13 5:50:00 PM by Willbyr

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#6: Aug 20th 2013 at 5:39:32 PM

[up] I see too many other tropes in that.

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Melkior Since: Dec, 2011
#7: Aug 21st 2013 at 1:43:50 AM

I also say pull it. I recognise it as Deep Thought from the TV series, which makes it a non-example. I'd accept it regardless if there was something in the picture which said "master computer", but there's nothing like that.

We may need to settle for some kind of illustration showing how one computer can control others.

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Melkior Since: Dec, 2011
#8: Aug 21st 2013 at 2:33:49 AM

Here are a few possible illustrations.

http://imgur.com/jbmWXvm

http://imgur.com/LoNDkb0

http://imgur.com/l8enedJ

http://imgur.com/IhIx897

http://imgur.com/UaoUeS0

http://imgur.com/989FPRa

Alternatively, I can try to find a cartoon with a computer "being bossy" as a humorous version of "master".

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#9: Aug 21st 2013 at 4:17:02 AM

[up] Of those, I like the third best, but I dunno that it's truly what the trope is getting at.

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#10: Aug 21st 2013 at 8:39:26 AM

[up][up] I'd say third as well, only because it shows computers, and all the others are ambiguous.

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Melkior Since: Dec, 2011
#11: Aug 21st 2013 at 8:46:46 AM

I don't think we're going to be able to illustrate this trope with anything but a literal interpretation. After all, how, exactly, would you illustrate a computer "lording it over" someone or something else?

I'll see if I can construct a more illustrative example.

Edit: Done and uploaded.

edited 21st Aug '13 8:58:46 AM by Melkior

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#12: Aug 21st 2013 at 9:34:08 AM

Can someone put faces on those screens that emphasize the roles?

DashSpendar Since: Mar, 2013
#13: Aug 21st 2013 at 9:36:29 AM

I don't see how that's illustrative. Master Computer is about a computer controlling (or at least being completely integral to the running of) a society. That's just illustrating a form of networking.

edited 21st Aug '13 9:37:43 AM by DashSpendar

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#14: Aug 21st 2013 at 6:31:44 PM

I wonder if something like Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal would have something...

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#16: Aug 22nd 2013 at 1:23:01 AM

[up]First or third could work.

edited 22nd Aug '13 1:41:02 AM by AnotherDuck

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#17: Aug 22nd 2013 at 1:35:59 AM

Only 2 works for me there.

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#18: Aug 22nd 2013 at 1:54:21 AM

@13: Isn't that The Computer Is Your Friend?

Isn't this trope "a system requires a central(=master) computer that have no redundancies"? This system commonly runs a The Computer Is Your Friend /an Crapshoot A.I, but it could also run a weapons system, a Kill Sat, a Cyberspace environment, or even just a mmorpg. What's is important is that the system can be controlled/destroyed by controlling/destroying this master computer.

edited 22nd Aug '13 2:02:45 AM by m8e

Melkior Since: Dec, 2011
#19: Aug 22nd 2013 at 3:38:25 AM

Both 15.1 and 15.3 could easily be a person who, for intimidation purposes, is only showing their eye on a video screen.

15.2 almost works, but as m8e said, it better fits The Computer Is Your Friend.

I'll see if I can further "doctor" 11 to better illustrate the trope.

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Melkior Since: Dec, 2011
#20: Aug 22nd 2013 at 4:09:17 AM

Okay, I've abandoned the idea of using 11, for now. Here's a possibly better alternative.

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#21: Aug 22nd 2013 at 5:32:32 AM

Couldn't we have HAL?

Oh really when?
Melkior Since: Dec, 2011
#22: Aug 22nd 2013 at 6:01:34 AM

[up] We could, but how would a picture of a glowing camera "eye" illustrate the trope? I say it wouldn't.

edited 22nd Aug '13 7:05:00 AM by Melkior

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#23: Aug 22nd 2013 at 6:02:57 AM

[up] I agree; HAL's sensor light isn't nearly enough context on its own. Also, I'm not really certain how HAL fits the trope...and it's a Zero Context Example on the page as it is.

edited 22nd Aug '13 6:03:59 AM by Willbyr

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#24: Aug 22nd 2013 at 6:21:33 AM

He's definitely this trope, albeit on a smaller scale. He runs the ship pretty completely... that said, I can't think of a way we can have it illustrative.

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#25: Aug 22nd 2013 at 7:05:40 AM

So what do people think of my suggestion in 20?

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