Lex is an entitled, ungrateful brat. He'd attack Superman and then expect Superman to rescue him if he were in danger.
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funny y thing is, this Luthor is closet to that interpretaiton that others
edited 26th Sep '16 9:17:45 AM by unknowing
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
The series Lex Luthor: Man of Steel was pretty good at looking at Luthor's reasoning. Put simply, it doesn't buy it because Lex at the end of the day thinks everything that benefits him benefits humanity, and he's too narcissistic to accept anything that challenges this worldview.
Thing is, plenty of people have terrible childhoods and don't try to destroy/take over mankind over imaginary entitlement issues.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Still makes more since because in this situation, we still get the reason WHY he hates Superman because it was something Superman himself did. Cause and effect.
Modern!Luthor clearly opposes Superman out of jealously and xenophobia. "Why does everyone love the alien who did nothing to earn his powers compared to the self made human being?" In this case, yes, Luthor has no reason to hate Superman. But people can wrap their heads around jealously and pride.
As oppose to DCEU!Luthor where it's... "I hate him because.... of entirely different reasons not related to him whatsoever."
edited 26th Sep '16 10:11:47 AM by NoName999
Why don't they have more superheros with terrible parents? The good parents seem to often die young. And would it make any difference if little Clark had been able to intervene somehow?
Lil' Lex: P-please! D-don't hit me again. *muffled sobs*
Lex Sr. continues being physically and verbally abusive to the poor kid, use your imagination.
Lil' Clark: Uhoh, I'm hearing stuff again! Wait, it sounds like someone is being really mean. *scampers to the house he heard the noises from* Okay, here goes. *knocks on door* no one's coming....
Clark then crashes through the window, after making a mask from some cloth so no one recognizes him.
Clark: Hey! You shouldn't treat someone like that! You are a very mean grownup!
Lex Sr. None of your @#!% business you brat! Get out of here!
Clark: Oh, I already called 911 for a case of child abuse.
Lex Sr.: How do you even know about that! Yer just a stupid brat!
Clark: I'm well read. Come on, kid. Lets go wait for the cops. If that guy bothers us, I'll handle it!
Lil' Lex: How? You're my age!
Lil' Clark: Trust me. I can handle it!
Lex Sr. then tries to attack the two boys. Clark then punches him in the stomach just hard enough to send him flying into a wall.
Clark: That's why you shouldn't hit people! It hurts! And you shouldn't say mean stuff! Oh! I hear the police! Hey kid, if I tie him up, can you handle the police?
Lex: Uh, maybe? W-what if they don't believe me?
Clark: Well, I'll be back sometime to check on you. Bye!
And then Clark tells his parents what happened. His parents then arrange to help find a good foster family for Lex. His dad goes to prison for ten years and loses all parental rights. No one ever had solved the mysterious disappearance of Lex's mother shortly after he was born.
Years later!
Lex never figures out that Superman(well, Superboy...) helped save him from his abusive father.
Lex: Do you know you saved me from my terrible monster of a father? An ordinary lad!
Superman: Uh... sure, let's just go with that.
It's about as logical as any supervillain reason. See Dr Doom who accuses Reed of something he didn't even do.
But in all seriousness, that would make a good motivation for a hero. "My parents were shitty people, so I'm going to live my life trying to be a way better person than those guys."
Dr. Doom is a deluded narcissist.
edited 26th Sep '16 10:55:46 AM by thatdude
Superman is only powerful enough to be an elohim(Hebrew for powerful entity). Not the Elohim/God(the capitalization makes a big difference). And this one isn't even Silver Age powerful. Though kryptonite was more effective on that one. Though, Supes seems to lose most of his intelligence whenever Lex or Bruce is anywhere near by. Clark is as smart, strong, and fast as the plot demands.
Doom is essentially Luthor as a politician instead of a businessman. Both have that narcissistic desire to be above anyone else, and zero in on the person who challenges their worldview.
For that matter, after experiencing firsthand that power alone does not imply malice, as well as being saved by someone with clearly superhuman abilities, why would Lex go paranoid to begin with?
Fact is, Superman's presence on Earth alone precipitated a fight that demolished his city - more than enough to push Batman over the edge, let alone an already unhinged Luthor. And as nine out of ten aliens in comics (or 999 out of 1000, counting mooks) tend to be hostile to Earth, xenophobia is hardly unwarranted.
As for the childhood deal, the saddest yet most intriguing thing is that real life victims of childhood abuse continue to be easily victimized in their adult lives. Meanwhile, the people who set out to take over world regions arise in altogether tumultuous societies or historical periods - Magneto and Doom might attest to that, while Luthor occasionally has been depicted as poverty-stricken on top of the usual abuse. That's actually the background I consider most interesting for his clash with Superman, as it pits an honest yet sheltered idealist against a cynic who's actually seen society from the bottom up - the set up of a rather complex moral conflict... again, so long as writers don't make a straw hypocrite out of Luthor when they can't find reasonable ways to dispute his points. Moreover, as Superman is the one to arrive late to the party, there's plenty of basis for personal animosity on the grounds of Luthor already running a tight if corrupt ship, with Superman come to claim the spoils - kinda like people thank and pray to their preferred deity after the surgeon's already done the dirty work. Still, that's more of a comic issue, with the DCEU going for another characterization.
The invariable feature of the conflict is that Superman has always been haunted thematically by the fact that he can't help everyone, and Luthor represents those among such people that go villainous as a result. There's even a story where his reason for committing petty crimes is that it'll keep Superman engaged, so other people will be left helpless and resent him for not coming to their aid. And, harsh as his teaching methods are, it's a pretty valid point, particularly as Superman is typically just as resentful of the darker anti-heroes who don't bother waiting for him, but take out the villains by themselves - including Batman in the DCEU. In the comics, it's almost as if he likes having people keep Holding Out for a Hero, rather than take care of their own self-defense.
Didn't the Guardians of the Universe tell him that he was harming Earth's progress by helping too much? Someone needs to tell the big blue boyscout to search for those falling through the cracks that need help or stick to the really big things and let the human emergency services do their job.
I say things.
Super crazy!
Those proto-batjets are cool.
edited 7th Oct '16 7:49:10 AM by Cruherrx
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
I say things.
I'm impressed that they actually wrote a newspaper article for that scene. But, they do need to do that considering that we can stop a movie a pay attention to the details.
On another random note, it would be funny if Bruce and Clark discussed Bruce's Wrong Genre Savvy actions.
Clark: So, why were you trying to kill me?
Bruce: You have to be very cynical to survive in Gotham. And I may have watched too many of those alien invasion films where the aliens pretend that they're here to help, but then turn out to really want to eat us or take over the world for some nefarious purpose.
Clark: That's silly! With my powers, what would be the point of pretending to be good? Zod and his crew didn't pretend to have any good intentions for humanity.
Bruce: They implied that they would leave us alone if we let them have you. Does that count?
Clark: No? Why would it? Threatening to destroy everyone on a planet is something that bad guys do!
Bruce: And is there any possibility that you could turn evil? What then?
Clark: Why would I do that? Unless I had zero social support and went through something horrible, I don't think I'd ever want to be evil!
Bruce: Are you saying that having friends is all that's needed to keep you from turning evil?
Clark: Yep! I guess you could put it that way. I don't think that kryptonite would work as well a second time, so the preventative power of friendship it is!
Bruce: Well, then we need to find you some more friends. Your mom and girlfriend do not count as a sufficient support structure.
Clark: Really? They're my world! I'd never let something bad happen to them if I could help it!
Bruce: That could become a problem. Could you show that same level of protectiveness for the entire human population? Without trying to take over the world or something.
Clark: Well, I already saved the world a couple of times. So, I think I'm good. Now that we got that straightened out, can we be friends?
Bruce: Sure.
Clark: Yay!
months later
Bad guy: Ha ha Batman! I have set a bomb to go off in two minutes! You better find it!
Bruce: *punches out bad guy and looks for the bomb*
Bruce: Oh, Crap!, there's only thirty seconds left! No time to disarm the bomb! Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb. *runs into a deserted area with the bomb to reduce potential casualties*
Clark: *notice Batman running with a bomb that's about to go off* Oh no! Looks like some one needs my help! *flies down to take the bomb from Batman and smother the explosion*
Bruce: That was convenient. You showed up just in time to help save the city.
Clark: Is that the closest you can come to saying thank you?
Bruce: Yes.
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That actually explains how Bruce was able to seemingly teleport from the Pit back to Gotham, survive the dirty bomb, and travel to Europe with Selina without having anyone notice. 
Except that Superman isn't in the Dark Kight Saga universe...
But if the The Dark Knight Rises story line had occurred in a universe that did have a Superman flying around...
At the pit
Clark: Finally found you!
Bruce: Great! Mind giving me a ride back to Gotham? I need to stop Bane. He's tthe guy that broke my back and had me dumped here.
Clark: Can I help?
Bruce: This is something I have to do.
Clark: Okay...
later...
Batman is piloting the plane out to sea. Clark sees that Bruce is still in the plane and that he is carrying the nuclear device out of the city. Clark snatches Bruce and flies away with him in the nick of time.
edited 12th Oct '16 11:48:00 AM by bookworm6390
Came across this video
where a model studio made the replica of Zod's / Michael Shannon's body. Outright surreal, I know a number of people actually thought Michael Shannon played the corpse. Jesse Eisenberg mentioned that he had to spend some time with the dummy and that apparently Shannon didn't sign off on them replicated his genitals (Affleck joked they used his instead). The Uncanny Valley worked in this case, as the color differences reflected the slow rate of decay.
That's really impressive work.
I say things.
How would the DCAU Superman and Batman react to the DCEU Superman and Batman if they somehow met through multiverse shenanigans?
Love is Love is Love
edited 26th Sep '16 9:07:55 AM by alliterator