Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

All Kryptonite does it take away a Kryptonian's solar-gained powers, so that still means Superman is biologically vulnerable to Ivy's poison.

How about Jokerization? It worked on the Eradicator (also of Kryptonian origins), and it never failed to affect anyone and anything else, from a Greek demigoddess to cockroaches to Apokolips warriors to Chemo.

He still had his powers I thought.

I'm pretty sure that Kryptonite is lethal to Superman, 'cause of radiation, not just stripping his powers.

It's typically explained that Superman's solar powers gives him a resistance to poisons and (depending on the version) diseases of all kinds (in that case basically buffing his immune system), and so he's more susceptible to things like that if there's Kryptonite involved.

So technically speaking, that isn't to say that he couldn't be infected by something Poison Ivy cooked up without Kryptonite, just that it's much less likely to actually work.

edited 26th Feb '15 12:22:31 PM by KnownUnknown

Superman's exact vulnerability to Kryptonite has varied. The only consistent thing is that it weakens or cancels out his powers but that ranges from "immediate sap of strength" to "Power Nullifier" for an extended period to "barely noticing it's there until he bleeds." As befitting Necessary Drawback, the more powerful he is the greater his weakness to it becomes. The less powerful he is, he can shrug it off or power through it.

My understanding is that the different colors of Kryptonite are what the differing effects are for. Green kryptonite just straight up weakens and kills him. Red kryptonite transforms him into weird shit. Gold kryptonite nullifies his powers. Silver kryptonite makes him insane. Pink kryptonite makes him gay. Etc. etc.

edited 26th Feb '15 12:42:27 PM by TobiasDrake

I thought Red made him evil. Or at least a dick.

Pre Crisis Red K made him randomly weird looking, Post Crisis Red K made him a crazed jerk.

Red does random stuff, and usually-but-doesn't-always effect his personality more than his actual body. In Smallville it might've always made him a ragemonster, but I didn't watch that all that much.

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Some continuities do have Green shut off his powers temporarily (notably, Lois And Clark did this the first time he was exposed to it, but it never happened later times), but usually it just causes him extreme pain and makes him weak only for as long as he's exposed do it.

edited 26th Feb '15 1:23:42 PM by KnownUnknown

I think Smallville also had blue kryptonite strip his powers, whereas in the comics blue is benign to Superman but has the same effect as green kryptonite when applied to Bizarro Superman?

edited 26th Feb '15 1:27:51 PM by TobiasDrake

In smallville it was like cancel out his powers, and it made bizarro explode because it gave him too much power. The comics version I think has to do with the replicator affecting kryponite the same way it affected superman, that is, bizarro is weak to replicated kryptonite, that is, blue.

I was talking about specifically green Kryptonite. The Kryptonite color spectrum is a different issue. In most general terms, green Kryptonite weakens him and red Kryptonite removes his inhibitions. The other variations are rare enough that they have only shown up a few times total. Blue Kryptonite is a passive nullifier, he doesn't have his powers but he isn't debilitated. Silver makes him paranoid and delusional. Gold apparently would remove his powers permanently. Pink made him gay. Black created a ying-yang thing.

Smallville had Kryptonite have an opposing effect on Bizarro. He gains a burst of energy from green Kryptonite, and is weaker in direct sunlight. Blue Kryptonite was used to destroy him, because it actually empowered him to insane levels but being an imperfect clone his body was unable to handle it.

Kryptonite also empowers at least one version of the Crime Syndicate's Ultraman.

Superman must have a Healing Factor to have recovered from radiation poisoning so many times! How has the gren K not given him cancer?

He actually does have a Healing Factor but he's so durable its rarely used.

Or drained his powers like the batch Myzyptlk made for Luthor or his skin transparent like in "Tower of Babel". Granted, magic was involved in the former and the latter involved a synthetic verison, but still.

edited 2nd Mar '15 8:21:36 AM by LordofLore

Batman and Superman discuss reboots.

edited 3rd Mar '15 3:18:56 PM by TobiasDrake

...Spider Man rebooted again?

I didn't watch the Amazing Spiderman films and...

...why? After Spider Maguire 3, I thought everyone was ripping and roaring for that reboot?

edited 7th Mar '15 7:46:42 PM by FOFD

He's under the dome of the MCU now, though he's still produced by Sony - so they're clearing house and re-establishing the character, kind of like how company politics forced The Spectacular Spiderman to be replaced when Marvel changed hands.

If its any consolation, they probably won't be doing another origin movie for him.

Spider-man must have the record of the most reboot in 20 years. Though...I guess if you see the Schumacher movies as "soft reboots", one could make a case that Batman got even more.

Depends on what you consider a reboot and what medium. DC comics have generally settled for a Cosmic Retcon every 10-15 years and restart their comics, while Marvel did a split-off of the comic line with the Ultimate Universe and then a reboot of sorts with the Marvel NOW.

Considering the DCAU Batman lasted some 15 years (with only The Batman running concurrently), Spider-Man beats out Batman pretty handily between film, tv and comic series of the last 25-ish years.

Yeah, I've never seen Green Kryptonite portrayed as just removing Superman's powers. It has been portrayed most often as severely weakening him and causing him extreme pain that could eventually lead to death. Obviously, he's never, in continuity, been exposed to it long enough to kill him (though some stories have had him exposed to it for quite awhile); various portrayals have indicated that very small amounts can make him weak and/or sick, but not be lethal (Smallville, and Action Comics #600). Lois and Clark had it that it took him awhile to recover from the effects of Kryptonite, while most portrayals have him snapping right back to full health once the Kryptonite is removed. John Byrne described its radiation as driving the solar energy from his cels and replacing it with Green K radiation, so one imagines from that description he'd slowly get weaker, lose his powers, and ultimately die, all while in agonizing pain.

Gold Kryptonite, now. THAT stuff removed a Kryptonian's powers forever. Obviously, Superman never encountered it personally unless protected (except at the end of "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow")

You know, while it is a good thing that Superman has some kind of weakness, it being a rock is kind of ridiculous. I wouldn't mind it if the rules said "he has to get injected with it" or "you have to form it into bullets", but just holding it near Superman...it's kind of pathetic.