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#26: Aug 28th 2013 at 8:34:10 PM

Heard about this yesterday.

Welp. We got another comedian's pot of gold for Pixar!! How many jokes can we make with THIS??? :D

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#27: Aug 28th 2013 at 8:43:49 PM

Here we go again.

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#28: Aug 28th 2013 at 9:02:06 PM

[up] ...on our own? Down the only road we've ever known?

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#29: Aug 28th 2013 at 9:05:18 PM

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But in all seriousness, a director change is rarely a good thing. Just ask Brave.

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#30: Aug 28th 2013 at 9:09:52 PM

Yeah, but Toy Story 2 also had a director change, and it turned out pretty great.

And while I haven't seen Brave yet, the complaints I've heard about it more or less amount to "It's not as good as it should be!" rather than "It sucks!" or even "It's MEH."

EDIT: Hell, tons of movies have replacement directors and turn out great. Most of these movies are now classics.

edited 28th Aug '13 9:11:23 PM by 0dd1

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#31: Aug 28th 2013 at 9:19:24 PM

How have dinosaurs been "done to death" exactly? Maybe The Land Before Time went on longer than it should have, but besides that there's just Jurassic Park and We're Back. Maybe that Dinosaurs family sitcom if anyone else remembers it and we're including television. Batman has been more overdone than dinosaur films.

I don't get the complaint. Anyone care to explain, please?

But that's a story for another time.
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#32: Aug 28th 2013 at 9:22:13 PM

I mean, TV Trash just had a whole month of reviews of dinosaur-related TV shows. Dinosaurs are a popular thing for kids, and there will always be people making dinosaur movies/shows. It's been done to death, but it's kind of an Undead Horse Trope (see how awkwardly I shoehorned that in there? grin) by this point.

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#33: Aug 28th 2013 at 9:22:59 PM

Ratatouille had a director change. We all know that movie was a critical disappointment that Pixar fanboys wail about it's tragic waste of potential.

Oh wait.

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#34: Aug 29th 2013 at 5:27:56 AM

We're not complaining about how all Pixar films with director changes are bad, because some of them are great! We're complaining about how Pixar seems to be replacing directors more frequently.

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#35: Aug 29th 2013 at 5:38:22 AM

I really don't get the Brave hate, honestly. I didn't see it until fairly recently, but I think it was a good movie. Not a great movie, but it worked and the people at PIXAR seemed to meet the stated goal of making their own fairly tale.

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#36: Aug 29th 2013 at 6:37:08 AM

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So? Movie director shifts happen a lot.

And have people forgotten that Monsters U came out? I mean, that should have cemented the fact that Pixar still can make good movies (of course, I'm in the minority that prefers Monster U to Monsters Inc)

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#37: Aug 29th 2013 at 8:10:54 AM

[up][up]The Problem with Brave is that it's overpraised, winning an academy award and being called the movie with the "better" princess. There wouldn't be so much ire towards the movie if it would be treated as the mediocre movie it is.

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#38: Aug 29th 2013 at 8:30:10 AM

I've also noted that at least in some feminist circles where I live, Brave is subject to a lot of Praising Shows You Don't Watch by people apparently completely ignorant of how similar Merida's story is to the average 90s Disney princess (incidentally, the same people who tend to be very willing to condemn Mulan for not having a strong enough feminist message).

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39: Aug 29th 2013 at 8:47:35 AM

Either that, or they don't really know the movies they complain about.

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#40: Aug 29th 2013 at 5:16:13 PM

I wouldn't even call it mediocre. Its a good movie. Trick is, outside of professional praise (the awards you mentioned, basically), I've never hears anyone say a positive thing about Brave. Rather, it seems like people act like its proof that PIXAR can't make good movies anymore.

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#41: Aug 29th 2013 at 7:47:17 PM

For me, the most important part of any movie is the plot, and that's where Brave fails. Plus, I think the jokes in this movie are downright offensive and not funny.

But we are talking about the good Dinosaur. A change of director is naturally not a good thing, because it means that something is currently not okay with the movie. But perhaps they can correct it in time.

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#42: Aug 29th 2013 at 7:54:24 PM

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It often just means that the directors vision is too ambitions and weird to make accesable and profitable (Pixar is a business, first and foremost).

It's the reason why Jan Pinkava was removed from Ratatoullie, and why Chris Sanders was removed from Bolt at Disney (American Dog was waaaay to odd for a Hollywood movie project)

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#43: Aug 29th 2013 at 8:31:47 PM

Obviously Pixar can still make great movies - Monsters U was better than the first movie to me, Brave was good too.

The problem with this, at least to me, is it feels gimicky - after all, Pixar's strength is story, not concept. The concept here actually strikes me as the same as Dinotopia. Obviously it could still be good, but at first glance the concept seems lacklustre and uninspired.

PrettyCoco Since: Jan, 2013
#44: Aug 29th 2013 at 8:42:31 PM

[up][up] How weird, because I thought that's DREAMWORKS thing, not Pixar's. They are supposed to be the better man here and they so far they've shown us that they are not.

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#45: Aug 29th 2013 at 9:10:17 PM

But I thought she can't find a better man.

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TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#46: Aug 30th 2013 at 10:03:43 AM

Plus, I think the jokes in this movie are downright offensive and not funny.

Huh? O__o

edited 30th Aug '13 10:03:52 AM by TheSpaceJawa

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#47: Aug 30th 2013 at 1:18:52 PM

I think it's the Scottish stereotype jokes. Which, honestly, are so overdone by this point I don't see how anyone could find it offensive anymore. It's like making a joke about fat, stupid, ugly Americans. It's an easy cheap shot that some people might chuckle at and that most might just say "seen it" to.

edited 30th Aug '13 1:19:10 PM by 0dd1

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#48: Aug 30th 2013 at 2:06:04 PM

Bad comparison. "Fat stupid American" jokes annoy me to no end. I can see how someone would be upset by the Scottish equivalent.

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#49: Aug 30th 2013 at 2:28:08 PM

I didn't find them offensive, but I also know that Pixar can do better in terms of humor than "HA HA BAGPIPES AND HAGGIS ARE FUNNY."

Honestly, I just think of Brave as a Disney film that's trying to pass itself off as a Pixar film.

edited 30th Aug '13 2:30:44 PM by Mort08

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#50: Aug 30th 2013 at 3:58:54 PM

[up] You do not know how much I love you right now for not saying DREAMWORKS movie like the rest of the brainless masses!


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