It wouldn't surprise me if in the next few years they replaced the Hall of Presidents with Moments with Mr. Lincoln.
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It's an iconic part of Disney, so I don't think they will no matter how our current president is less to be desired.
Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon
In the next few years there may very well be a new president. It's not going anywhere for the time being.
edited 26th Dec '17 7:52:59 PM by Aldo930
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
From what I've heard of the Trump animatronic, the stuff he says is ridiculously out-of-character for him. It's like a version of Trump from a Bizarro Universe where he's a halfway respectable and dignified human being. I suppose making the Trump robot say stuff that Trump would actually be likely to say would get Disney accused of anti-Trump propaganda.
Even though Donald Trump's sheer loathsomeness as a politician and a human being is a bit of an outlier, the Hall of Presidents just strikes me as a bad idea in concept. Every country is led by assholes at some point, and the idea of putting all of the country's leaders together as if all of them are equally decent people, particularly in something aimed at children, strikes me as somewhat propagandistic in and of itself.
Mweheheh
Trump himself apparently voiced the animatronic. Make of that what you will.
Using a script fed through him and approved by Disney executives, no doubt.
Yep. There are rumours that the script went back and fourth a number of times before they found a compromise. (I have also read claims that the Disney employees hate to even touch the Trump puppet).
Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon
I had heard they were going to try and avoid controversy by going back to the way the attraction was before Clinton, where the sitting president doesn't talk.
It seems they didn't even try.
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
No matter what, there would have been complains.
Warner Bros need to do better. With 33 movies they should be able to beat Disney's measly 12, except that they keep failing with their franchises. Universal also has a way better movies to box office ratio than WB has.
edited 27th Dec '17 6:13:59 AM by Swanpride
He obviously was reading from something someone else wrote, and was told to not ever go off-script like in his usual speeches. :/ Disney wants to make all the presidents presented in a G-rated, refined manner in case they have to keep them active in that attraction for decades and decades.
Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon
I thought WB makes that many movies since they still believe in the old idea of making cheap little movies that will cushion the studio in the event a big blockbuster doesn't do as well as it was supposed to.
Disney does that well with so few movies, after all, because they're mostly blockbusters that everyone knows are going to be hits - the Marvel and Star Wars stuff, after all.
(Twenty years ago, Disney was distributing that many movies a year - if you count their then-subsidiaries.)
edited 27th Dec '17 7:49:55 AM by Aldo930
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
Yes, but the point is that they are still doing the blockbusters. They should do something in the ballpark of Disney with them, with the smaller movies adding even more to the revenue. But too many of their blockbusters underperformed this year. Without Wonder Woman, they result would have looked even worse.
Speaking of revenue, the bottom line might be even lower, exactly because the most expensive movies did the worst (relatively speaking).
edited 27th Dec '17 8:33:17 AM by Swanpride
I was rewatching Ne-Yo's take on Friend Like Me, when I got to wondering about the Aladdin movie and Will Smith. The big thing I've been worried/thinking about in regards to that was the genie's take: I don't really see Will doing big and blue, or dolled up like the Broadway one. He can done zany when he really wanted, but he hasn't sincerely done so since his Fresh Prince days.
So I got to thinking that maybe they're going to play him like this:
Y'know, instead of being your big, friendly blue buddy, they play the genie as an incredibly suave, larger than life benefactor-type. Maybe with a hint of Angel Unaware in there, where he looks more like a regular person (but still has a constant otherworldliness) than he used to.
edited 29th Dec '17 6:28:31 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Unrelated:
Someone on twitter pointed out that with Disney's acquisition of Fox's properties, Anastasia might technically be a disney princess now. :p
edited 29th Dec '17 6:39:12 PM by Draghinazzo
Oh, bother.
Though if you really want to get technical that movie ended with her giving up her title to live a normal life with her love interest, meaning she's technically not a princess anymore. Then again, Mulan wasn't technically a princess either.
Or Pocahontas and yet she's a part of the Disney Princess line. Which still bugs me because she's not even close to royalty. Well she met royalty in the sequel but...I don't think anybody cares about that.
Not an evil Thievul
Moana is technically a chief's daughter, too, while we're on this.
"Lucian, don’t be afraid, we’ll make it through this."
I always thought that Moana being a princess was just Maui taking the piss out of her.
Moana has more claim to being a princess than Pocahontas does. Maui takes the piss out of her for it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the original conception of the character was officially one. Disney is... weird... about Princesses now: they're generally responding to criticism of their use of the idea by downplaying the idea rather than retroactively fixing what they did wrong.
In any case, Disney has long since interpreted "princess" to mean "daughter of the chief ruling party, and also Mulan," and do an effectively decent job showing the difference, which does make more sense than the alternative, because otherwise they would be limited to telling those stories with cultures of specifically Western descent.
edited 29th Dec '17 7:50:31 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
I've always been irritated they went out of their way to exclude Kida.
Well, yeah, they do that when a film fails at the box office. Eilonwy isn't part of the line either.
Which is a shame cuz I really do like Kida as a character in Atlantis. And being played by Cree Summer does help with that.
There's also the fact that Atlantis is highly atypical of them. Disney has a few princesses that aren't the kind of characters they want to advertise as princesses. For instance: Nala, technically.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Yeah, if you want to show your disdain for Trump bot just boo him in the audience. However, making park employees work harder makes you an asshole.