Honestly, the end of the movie (and, to be honest, most of the plot of the middle part of the movie too) really made me want a Zootopia police procedural show. So much potential, and it seems like an incredibly fun premise. Plus, those kids of shows inherently rely on the character dynamic between its leads, which could lead to a lot more neat character development for Judy and Nick.
I propose that the title of the show be ZPD: Zootopia Police Department. Something like that.
As for contemporary references making the movies dated...look, it's unavoidable. Every movie at some point becomes an unintentional period piece for one reason or another, be it with the dialogue (contemporary references or not, the way the characters speak will always date a movie to a specific era), the production itself (e.g. the audio mixing, the way the video looks, how everything is shot), the fashions on display (no matter how "timeless" the wardrobe and hairstyles are), even right down to elements of the setting (e.g. a movie set in New York can seem like it takes place anytime, then suddenly you see the Twin Towers in an establishing shot).
Hell, even period pieces themselves can have elements of this with how they're written and structured—every era has its own distinct styles of filmmaking, whether the differences are huge or subtle.
EDIT: speaking of that trope, this bit on the page:
edited 19th Mar '17 5:35:00 PM by Odd1
Insert witty 'n clever quip here.Imo crime and mystery with a big setting is the kind of thing that works better on tv (or more precisely as a sequential) than it does with movies, because it gives more opportunities to explore the setting and have the characters deal with a wide variety of plots and schemes.
It's especially great for Zootopia, because there's so much you can do with a "world of animals" idea, let alone "crime in a world of animals," and a tv show would be able to do both small scale and epic scale stuff, as well as more day to day personal problems for Nick and Judy, while movies are more or less limited to the schemes that threaten to destroy the city and the absolutely most trying experiences of their lives.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.I'd love it if they turned it into an hour-long show on ABC, but I know that's never gonna happen and at best it'd be a half-hour show on Disney Channel or XD. Which I'd be fine with, just crime shows tend to work better when they have the whole hour.
Insert witty 'n clever quip here.This is pretty much true. Some things, no matter how timeless they may seem, could only have been made when they were.
For example, take most of Disney's films from the early 80s; they could only have been made in that unique period for the company.
It could join the long tradition of Disney police procedurals.
After all, there was Bonkers and... well, that's about it.
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."The Mickey European comics have a long tradition of doing police procedure action stories, if that counts.
Does Fillmore! count?
Hell yes Fillmore counts, and it's a damn good example too.
Insert witty 'n clever quip here.Fillmore was the first thing that came to my mind as well.
Bite my shiny metal ass.I know Mickey is frequently portrayed as a detective, whereas Donald more often stumbles into adventure, or gets pulled into it by Scrooge and the boys.
I always loved the Mickey detective stories. I also always wanted a The Great Mouse Detective TV show. On the movie side there is also the first Rescuer movie. On the TV show side there is also...Bonkers....and naturally the Rescue Rangers.
edited 20th Mar '17 12:58:57 AM by Swanpride
Roger Rabbit is at its core, when you think about it, a noir detective mystery.
A Zootopia TV series would be freaking amazing. It really does lend itself better to a TV series than a sequel.
Trust you? The only person I can trust is myself.Specifically Who Framed Roger Rabbit borrows heavily from the film Chinatown, storywise. A few scenes are the same too, with allowances for an extremely emotional cartoon rabbit being there (like the one where Eddie shows Roger the photos of Jessica playing pattycake with RK Maroon; there's a nearly identical scene in Chinatown).
I would have said Roger Rabbit, but it wasn't really a Disney film and it was a one-off. Well, there were the Roger Rabbit comic books... kind of? I barely remember.
edited 20th Mar '17 8:22:36 AM by Aldo930
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."Roger Rabbit is more a Disney movie which initially disguised as a co-production in order to get the permission to use the Warner Bros character. Nowadays it is released under the Disney logo. It doesn't count as one of the official Disney animated movies, but none of the live-action/animation mix movies do.
Can't believe I am saying this, but Home on the Range is technically a detective story, too.
but none of the live-action/animation mix movies do.
Ehhh, Fun and Fancy Free, Three Caballeros and Fantasia 2000 are all part of the canon, and they all have live action/animation mix segments.
It's the difference between an animated film with live-action bits, which The Three Caballeros and the like are, and something like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, which is a live-action film happening to star animated characters as well.
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."Visually speaking, Who Framed Roger Rabbit is most like Song of the South and So Dear to My Heart, in terms of how the animation/live action mix is employed.
So Dear to My Heart...that's one a lot of people forget. I've been a Disney fan since childhood, but I'd never heard of that one until I was an adult.
Disney did publish some Roger Rabbit comics, back in the 90's when they took over their own comics line, and they produced (possibly through Touchstone, but I can't remember) a couple of more Roger Rabbit shorts, too. Every couple of years you hear rumors of a sequel, which would be cool, but we've yet to see any real movement on it.
edited 20th Mar '17 9:42:53 AM by Robbery
The only reason people remember So Dear To My Heart is because Burl Ives was in it. And they used him better in Summer Magic, arguably. (The Sherman Brothers never wrote a better song than "The Ugly Bug Ball"!)
The Roger Rabbit shorts were released with Touchstone films - the first one was with Honey I Shrunk The Kids, the second one with Dick Tracy, and the third... I don't remember.
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."Pretty sure Roger Rabbit has always been under the Disney umbrella—it wasn't actually distributed by the main Disney label, but it's been under their alternate Touchstone label for more adult fare.
The film also wasn't a co-production with other studios either; Spielberg was able to get other studios to borrow their characters for the film (under certain stipulations), but Disney and Amblin otherwise produced the film by themselves.
edited 20th Mar '17 1:27:22 PM by Yeow95
has a clue, but it's usually not the correct one 0.55% of the timeAnd we've seen Roger in Disney related projects, but never in any Warner related fare.
I think a hypothetical Goofy detective would be a great comedic opportunity. Besides, Goofy doesn't really have any action/adventure stuff outside of Kingdom Hearts.
It's been 3000 years…So, hypothetical question: Which Disney animated movie would you take out from the "Canon", so to speak, and slot another one in? I'd take out Dinosaur, Chicken Little and Home on the Range and slot in The Nightmare Before Christmas, A Goofy Movie and A Christmas Carol (The story is all over the place but the effect is sick!!!)
I don't really think belonging to the canon or not takes anything from any movie's enjoyment or merits, so I'm okay with things being the way they are.
I'd be down for a Zootopia TV show. As said before, there are parts of the world that haven't been explored yet, and we could get further development for some of the other characters like Clawhauser, Gazelle, and Finnick for example.
I'm fact, I think a TV show would be a better way to continue the story than a whole other movie.
"I shall not be foolish again, my dear Gwendolyn!"