@Carl And yet what you keep missing (and what I, and others, have repeated) is that "special" is a nebulous term that doesn't constitute a trope unless you can qualify it with some other things. Significant Green-Eyed Redhead
is a trope because it's also paired with an eye color, is notably both real life hair and eye colors that appear disproportionately in fiction, despite being incredibly rare in real life. That is what marks it off as different. White hair, however, is a fictional hair color (excluding age and albinism). When
there is a unique pattern to it it is either White Hair, Black Heart
or the suggested Arcane White Mane
. "Special" is not a significant enough contribution to a trope.
I promise you we could have a flourishing trope built on every single hair color
+ special. That's not good enough. Characters with unique hair colors tend to be special. It sets them apart. That doesn't mean there needs to be a specific hair color for it. It is not limited to women (see the misuse of WHPB). Pretty is not a qualifier; fiction is almost entirely based around pretty people.
When white hair is assosiated with some kind of special ability or power, (literial or not), it's this trope.
Yes. This is what I've been saying. But that is not
the trope as it currently stands. It's not the trope as it is defined. It is not the trope as it is titled. It is not the trope as seen in the examples. It is not the trope for which we selected an image or a quote for. As I mentioned earlier, I believe that the reason this trope has lived so long is that some people read into it Arcane White Mane
, since that is a part of the trope. But that isn't the trope.
So let me say clearly, once more: White-Haired Pretty Girl
is a pretty, young girl with white hair who is special in any way. That is not a trope.
Also given we seem to have come to an agreement about gender specific = wrong
You seem to be getting huffy about what it is people are disagreeing with. This is not a female specific trope in that it's not even closely associated with females. It just attracted female-only examples because because it is listed as Always Female
and there existed a male version alredy. The association with females is wrong because if it is female inclined, it's a very light inclination. Barrier Maiden
can have male examples, but it is overpopulated with female ones. There's maybe five male examples listed on the page.
But the concept of white hair meaning something mystical and arcane about a character is not in practice or theory limited by gender. Not to mention the fact that we'd be tightening the trope description (basically replacing it) warrants a name change, as no one will realize the trope has
If you don't understand, please tell me what it is you
think I'm saying.
For the record, I would also like to note that you have insulted myself and others more than once.
edited 6th May '13 12:32:08 AM by helterskelter