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Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#26: Apr 21st 2013 at 5:05:52 PM

Then I'm all in favour of cutting it. A future trope with the same name can still be YKTTW'd, but at this time I don't think there's any extant pages that it ought to actually be redirected to.

edited 21st Apr '13 5:07:05 PM by Pig_catapult

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#27: Apr 21st 2013 at 5:20:54 PM

[up][up] Because what it's being used for is not likely even remotely to be what anyone who uses it is looking for?

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#28: Apr 21st 2013 at 5:25:17 PM

The only reason to make it a redirect at all is to avoid breaking the inbound links pointing to it. Which is the safer assumption: that someone who linked to it from an outside site meant "Red Herring" or that they intended to link to the page with the list of tropes?

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#29: Apr 21st 2013 at 6:20:12 PM

Neither seems particularly likely, to be honest; I'm at a loss to explain how it has inbounds at all.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#30: Apr 21st 2013 at 6:28:59 PM

Is there a way to see where the inbounds come from?

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#32: Apr 21st 2013 at 6:52:54 PM

At a guess, it probably has inbounds because it's a great name for a trope. It's just too bad we don't (yet) have anything to fit the name.

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#33: Apr 21st 2013 at 7:42:32 PM

[up] Entertainingly, one of the inbounds is about exactly that.

Oh, and nearly all of them are either false inbounds or else not confirmable.

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#34: Apr 22nd 2013 at 3:27:08 AM

I think that, assuming we care about these uncomfirmable inbounds, redirecting this page to any kind of related index is more useful than redirecting it to the term it's Snow Cloned off. Since the index has more diverse content, it is more likely to contain whatever it was that the user is looking for.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#35: Apr 23rd 2013 at 9:26:06 AM

So, are we set to redirect this to Death Tropes?

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Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#38: Apr 30th 2013 at 10:23:32 AM

Works for me.

EDIT: Actually, the name seems like it would fit Dead Star Walking. Any thoughts on making this a redirect to that?

edited 30th Apr '13 10:44:47 AM by Larkmarn

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Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#39: Apr 30th 2013 at 2:04:36 PM

How's that a red herring, though? I mean, I guess it's kind of a fakeout on a meta level, but when I think of "red herring" I think of something actually misleading in the context of the story.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#40: Apr 30th 2013 at 3:32:39 PM

They're both about misleading the audience that something or someone is more important than they really are. I think it's a good fit.

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Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#42: May 1st 2013 at 6:05:34 PM

I'd actually prefer the name to Dead Star Walking, to be honest. After all, that is a meta Red Herring that relies on audience awareness of the cast-list, rather than the actual plot elements, to increase the impact of the unexpected death nicely. [lol]

Well, unless the headliner is somebody like Sean Bean, of course. tongue Hmm... spotted a couple of problems. <gets out the staple gun to add some tropes to the explanations... doubt anybody will mind what I'm about to do...>

edited 1st May '13 6:13:24 PM by Euodiachloris

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#43: May 2nd 2013 at 1:46:58 AM

I have no objection to redirecting to DSW.

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Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Hurler of Swine
#44: May 3rd 2013 at 7:24:07 PM

Alright, so, blank the current page and make it a redirect to Dead Star Walking?

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#45: May 8th 2013 at 6:47:01 PM

Yeah, can we call this one?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#46: May 12th 2013 at 6:46:41 AM

Obvious consensus in favour of redirecting to Death Tropes, so barring urgent objections I'll do that soon.

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#47: May 12th 2013 at 11:42:30 AM

Well, I think there's been a pretty strong consensus to make it a redirect to Dead Star Walking. At least, since it was suggested no one seems to have disagreed with it.

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#48: May 12th 2013 at 11:51:07 AM

OK, dewicked it and redirected it to Death Tropes. If we want to change that to Dead Star Walking, sure, do so.

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