Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Yeah, I still think its ugly...there is something unwieldy about many of the American models. But then, I am kind of a snob in this regard, being European.

I know next to nothing about cars. Including the fact that Ghost Rider apparently drove one at some point, what the f-

As someone who actually loved Ward's switch to villainy and didn't think he was undergoing some extensive Villain Decay, at least not until he met Gideon, I would chuckle if he showed up in Season 4 out of nowhere.

As a Life Model Decoy with his early Season 1 personality and proceeded to scare the crap out of Fitz. Then everybody spends the episode being irritable and uncomfortable around Fake Ward. Can't think of a reason for Coulson to have one of those though.

Also, that skit of Skye and Ward actually getting along, and him calling her Skye, was such a weird throwback. It really does feel like that was years ago. I love it when shows make you feel that passage of time even after just a couple of seasons.

edited 23rd Jul '16 12:47:41 PM by Soble

If I see Ward come back in season 4, that's it for me and this show.

I certainly wouldn't mind a reset to "Ward before he went totally crazy" if for no other reason than that it really would weird out all of the other characters. Also, there is still the matter with his sister.

Well, they are still spies, occasionally. Not everybody is going to know Ward is dead. Fake!Ward could be useful if they need to set up a meet with one of his old contacts. Or that sister. What was the deal with his sister again?

I'm not really big into cars, but the '68-70 Charger has kind of a storied history in movies, TV, and car chases, which is why people who like cars tend to like this car in particular. The General Lee, from The Dukes of Hazzard, kind of codified a trope as well as ensuring their collectibility by crashing some 300 of them (moving to '68 and '70 model years when they ran out of '69s) over the course of the series. It also shows up in The Fast and the Furious, Death Proof, Bullitt, and a whole bunch of others that I don't know offhand.

From what I've been able to dig up, in the comics Robbie apparently borrowed the car from the autobody shop where he works, and it belonged to the dead mobster whose ghost turned him into Ghost Rider? I'm sure somebody who's actually read the comics could explain this better than me.

That's basically it: Robbie borrowed the car from the shop where he worked, but then it turned out that the car had a shipment of drugs in it and he was stopped, killed, and then burned along with the car. However, the car used to belong to Robbie's great-uncle, Eli Morrow, who was a serial killer and whose ghost now resides within the car — and Eli's ghost merged with Robbie to create a new Ghost Rider.

Well, the paint job on the General Lee did a lot to ensure that the car looked cooler than it actually was...along with doors which couldn't be opened. There is something really cool about sliding into a car through the windows, even though I can't think of anything less practical.

I am so happy they're using Robbie Reyes. He was the best Ghost Rider. Robbie and Gabe were wonderful. Gabe! I want to see Gabe. Sweet, happy Gabe. And Robbie doing his absolute best to be the Best Big Brother. The relationship between Robbie and Gabe is just so good.

I also really hope this leads to Robbie (and Gabe!) getting used in the comics again.

The Dodge Charger, (the mighty "General Lee") used in the Dukes of Hazzard was built as a race-car. That's why the doors were welded shut. Why American stock cars, like the General Lee, had their doors welded shut is something I'm still not sure of. Apparently it was to make the cars stronger structurally, and is something that NASCAR cars to this day have done to them.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-racing/nascar/nascar-basics/nascar2.htm

BTW, Ghost Rider's Charger looks bad ass as fuck. Though the blower's probably as fake as the one on Max Max's Pursuit Special Interceptor version of the Ford Falcon.

Makes sense. Same reason they have stickers instead of actual lights, I imagine. Same reason F1 cars don't have doors that open from the sides at all, for that matter. Anything that affects stability even slightly is going to affect speed, and the fewer unnecessary moving parts you have to maintain, the less time and money you have to put into it.

Lilli Birdsell casted in recurring role

‘Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.’ Season Four Will Feature “Classic” Inhuman Characters

Crossposting from the MCU thread.

Well I guess that's one way to solve the issue with the Inhumans movie.

I doubt that this means "we introduce the Royal Family"...honestly, there is no room in Ao S for THAT storyline and complicated world.

I hope they introduce Karnak, though. His powers are easily represented and requires no CGI and he has a pretty well developed personality these days.

edited 27th Jul '16 8:40:15 AM by alliterator

Maybe just a couple of people, like Medusa. And then perhaps we could eventually see Attilan or something even though that would probably be best saved for the movies.

I can hope

edited 27th Jul '16 8:48:45 AM by yellowturtle

They could play up the long-term mystery of it, introducing other 'traditional' Inhumans who weren't with Jiaying at Afterlife but only one or two at a time. Focusing less on powers but more on their inhuman appearances could both explain why they've remained in hiding as well as allowing the effects budget to go toward reusable prosthetics rather than flashy CG, for one thing. Also putting them a little to the side means they don't push out all other plotlines the way the Hive storyline eventually did. Magic is presumably going to be a big deal, but with Hydra increasingly straining belief as any kind of threat, they're going to need to find something to fill that spot as a go-to enemy for the show.

I've heard that Afterlife was meant to evoke the Great Refuge version of Attilan? But the Inhumans rebuilding, perhaps in one of their other ancient cities, that would be pretty cool.

I highly doubt they're going to use Black Bolt, he'll be saved for the Inhumans movie, if it ever comes out. I agree that they could definitely allude to there being another place where inhumans have been living,leading to the eventual reveal that there is a city somewhere on the moon where inhumans have been living. I just hope that the inhumans wont be at the forefront of the show again, it's time to focus on other things.

If I might throw myself (a bit late) in the debate about weither or not Ghost Rider fits in the show, I personally feel like the show got better when it started embracing its comic booky over the top and use actual comic books elements. Rather than going off the rails I feel like it started to actually feel like a Marvel show. As such, needless to say I am excited for Ghost Rider; I wanted him to show up in the MCU from day one and while I would have liked Blaze instead, Robbie is a fine alternative.

Pre-Hydra Season 1's best episodes were the ones with recognizable characters like (the man who would be) Deathlok, Graviton, and Sif. Also T.R.A.C.K.S. They did classic spy stuff pretty well. The Monster of the Week episodes were what hurt it.

...As I recall. It's been a while.

I think the show is in general at its best when it focusses on the Spy stuff.

Yeah, though with a few exception most of these characters were adapted in ways that made it hard to recognize them as comic book characters (I am still waiting for Graviton to actually show up as a supervillain), and most of them didn't play that big of a role. I think Deathlock was the one who had the biggest role.

I don't know, the concept of SHIELD is that they are a spy organization dealing with a world where superhumans and other crazy stuff is regularly involved. Neglecting that part of the franchise is kinda sad to me.

Never said that they should ignore this aspect. You can have both in a good spy-episode. IE the Parting of Bobbi and Hunter was all about Inhumans, but it was also en exceptionally well-done Spy-episode.

... Good point.

Speaking of which, has their spin-off be canceled or not after all? I am a bit confused about this.