Well... that certainly wasn't the movie I was expecting when I heard about it a few months ago...
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Looks surprisingly fun
Plus Rebel Wilson is awesome as always
I am rather interested but that toe gag is not appealing to me.
Looks like this has a very good cast, if nothing else.
Earth-Pig Born
This seems to be a return to form for Bay. Remember when he made entertaining popcorn flicks like The Rock and Bad Boys?
You can get what you want and still not be very happy.
As long as there are no robots with testicles,. i'll see it.
Can anyone tell me what the special thing is about Red Band trailers? I have recently noticed that there is a lot of chatter around those recently and I had never heard of them before.
Regular "Green Band" trailers are meant to be appropriate for all audiences, even if it is a hard-core NC-17 movie about graphic sex and violence. That way you can put it in front of PG-13 audiences without an uproar. Red Band trailers are more honest about what the movie is about and feature language, sex and violence that you would never see in the green trailers. The key is that these trailers can only be shown before appropriate films, like say you're watching Kill Bill and see a trailer for Django Unchained.
Typically it is meant to appeal directly to the hard-core crowd the film is targeting like Pain & Gain, Rambo or Tarantino flicks, you probably wouldn't see an R-rated art film from Steven Spielberg (ie Saving Private Ryan) given a Red Band.
edited 4th Apr '13 12:26:07 PM by KJMackley
So this movie is based on really stupid story that actually DID happen in real life?
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Well yes actually.
Here are the article it's based off:
So is it actually a good movie by itself?
Just wondering since Brad Jones at least seems to love this movie and its surprise when anyone on Internet likes a Bay movie :p
A majority of reviews seem to like it, though many got turned off by the fact that it all really happened, affecting the black comedy.
Hmm, well, yeah that is pretty disturbing. Though I've heard that this is pretty much a story that is impossible to tell without it being a black comedy of sorts
I haven't seen it yet but it seems to be mixed on the side of positive according to Metacritic. When it comes to Bay, hating him is fairly popular and most of the negative reviews seemed to end up as "It's Bay! What else did you expect?" while the handful of critics I more-or-less trust seem to be along the lines of "Did not expect something of this caliber from Bay." The positive reviews all point out that he seems to be riffing on his own Eagleland persona (the American dream and living in excess) and making "big dumb movies" by making a movie that is deliberately about really stupid characters.
I've heard some say that the story deserved a more serious dramatic take on it but the more I hear about what happened I think a dark comedy angle is the only way to palpably make it watchable and get its message across. The more I know about what happened it just seems too outrageous to be taken completely seriously, the movie knows what the characters are doing is really stupid.
I watched this last month with the family. It was surprisingly entertaining.
Quite frankly I find this movie to be underrated. I perfectly understand why Marc Schiller {Who Kershaw was loosely based on} and the relatives of Frank Griga and Krisztina Furton are upset with the film given that it did make all 3 victims of the Sun Gym Gang look kind of bad and also played Kershaw's torment for comedy, but I don't understand why so many people are under the impression that the film makes the Sun Gym Gang look sympathic. The film clearly makes them out to be horrible people {With the exception of the fictional Paul Doyle} who are also colossal morons, and it in no way makes it look like they're horrible actions are justified.
edited 21st Dec '13 3:59:25 PM by marston
Red Band Trailer!:
Gotta love Michael Bay. At least he's actually making a film that isn't Transformers.
Did I mention that, from the looks of it, this looks to be a Crosses the Line Twice type of movie?
edited 28th Mar '13 4:51:26 PM by LDragon2