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IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#1376: Jul 4th 2014 at 6:53:22 AM

I'm pretty sure that Indigeous Australians had trade.

CardsOfWar Handy-Dandy Chord Finder from The Ocean Bed Since: Apr, 2013
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#1377: Jul 4th 2014 at 8:03:08 AM

Yeah, their economies were just more... localised. You see, it's pretty hard to have access to the global stock exchange when you don't have any methods of communication.

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medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
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#1379: Jul 4th 2014 at 4:56:27 PM

Ugh, I am just so used to these gaffs from Abbott I barely notice them any more.

I'm not surprised he holds that view. In his mind the Aboriginals were wallowing in ignorance before Europeans brought them farming. After all, he doesn't seem to care at all about society, just the economy.

Neoliberalism honestly makes me sick. How much longer do we have to wait until it implodes under the weight of its own contradictions? We need a new Marx.

edited 4th Jul '14 4:58:34 PM by medicus

It's not over. Not yet.
editerguy from Australia Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#1380: Jul 4th 2014 at 7:40:29 PM

I'm pretty sure 'unsettled' has never been a synonym for 'bereft of an economy'. Certainly, any Australian who uses the word in that sense given our history and culture is being obtuse beyond reason.

Australian law recognises that Australia was settled by sophisticated cultures with a claim to the land prior to British colonisation. The idea that Australia was 'unsettled' before the British arrived should be dead. Abbott is just not mentally in this century, he's a dinosaur.

Also, this guy appointed himself Prime Minister for Indigenous Australia! No, Abbott. Fuck off.

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#1381: Jul 4th 2014 at 8:37:45 PM

I think Tony Abbott may of been accidentally insightful considering the fact he was using the 'wonders' of the British settlement of aboriginal Australia to defend china's surge of investment in australia's real estate and mining.

edited 4th Jul '14 8:38:07 PM by joeyjojo

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SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
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#1382: Jul 5th 2014 at 5:50:35 AM

I go on holiday for a week and the Libs have dug a slightly deeper grave.

And yet they're still congratulating themselves on every clump of dirt they shovel.

[up]The concept of "Brits coming in and saving the native savages from their own ignorance" should be at the top of the dead, buried, cremated list.

edited 5th Jul '14 5:52:11 AM by SR3NORMANDY

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#1383: Jul 5th 2014 at 7:27:36 AM

[up]Hey: don't just accuse us Limeys of having had that! The Jesuits and Dutch got into that first! (And, both them and us have retracted it and said "sorry" since: bad idea was bad.)

edited 5th Jul '14 7:28:15 AM by Euodiachloris

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#1384: Jul 5th 2014 at 7:38:00 AM

[up] And before that, the Catholic Church did the same thingnote ...

Keep Rolling On
editerguy from Australia Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#1385: Jul 9th 2014 at 12:43:56 AM

Bid to axe Carbon Tax early fails

Blocked by Labor, Greens, Nick Xenophon, John Madigan from the Democratic Labour Party, and Ricky Muir the car guy. To me, Lambie and Muir are contributing fine so far, despite media predictions that as the 'bogan' Senators they would create a shambles or whatever.

Wondering what this means - is this just flagging further negotiation?

Also, High Court halts govt sending 153 asylum seekers back to Sri Lanka as mounting a legal case is considered.

edited 9th Jul '14 12:44:25 AM by editerguy

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#1386: Jul 9th 2014 at 1:34:38 AM

[up]I would think Muir's vote could be because Palmer wants to be able to hold that for negotiation a little longer. Wait up though, did Palmer even vote against it, or did Muir vote against lord Palmer's orders? Good that the fundamentalist Christians in the senate (Madigan) are at least doing SOME good I suppose.

edited 9th Jul '14 1:35:53 AM by CardsOfWar

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editerguy from Australia Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#1387: Jul 9th 2014 at 2:59:45 AM

[up]PUP voted in favour, Muir against.

The govt conceded to PUP's demand to keep the Australian Renewable Energy Agency. Maybe Muir is going to try to get a better deal for the Agency.

IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#1388: Jul 9th 2014 at 6:19:52 AM

Curious, then maybe Ricky Muir isn't just a simple bogan as the media portrayed him to be.

medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
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#1389: Jul 9th 2014 at 3:42:01 PM

Tony Abbott's latest gaffe.

IF Prime Minister Tony Abbott thought his summit with Japanese leader Shinzo Abe would pass unnoticed in Beijing then he had better think again.

The Xinhua news agency, the state-run press agency of the People’s Republic of China, has launched a scathing attack on Mr Abbott accusing him of crossing the “moral bottom line” with his overtures to Mr Abe.

It described Mr Abbott as “appalling and insensible” for showing such admiration for Japan’s wartime aggression.

More than 20 million Chinese perished at the hands of Japanese troops in the lead up to and during the war.

Xinhua’s Canberra correspondent quoted Mr Abbott’s speech to a special joint sitting of Parliament.

“We admired the skill and the sense of honour that they brought to their task although we disagreed with what they did. Perhaps we grasped, even then, that with a change of heart the fiercest of opponents could be the best of friends,” the prime minister said.

The correspondent said that Mr Abbott “probably wasn’t aware that the Japanese troops possessed other “skills”, skills to loot, to rape, to torture and to kill”.

“All these had been committed under the name of ‘honour’ almost 70 years ago,” Xinhua said.

“By making such a comment, Abbott showed how insensible he is towards people in China and other countries who had suffered greatly as a result of the ‘advanced’ war skills of Japanese troops and their sense of honour during their aggression.

“It also makes people wonder how far Australia under his leadership would go to support Japan.”

The highly critical comments must have been sanctioned by the highest levels of the Chinese Communist Party leadership.

Xinhua also attacked Abe’s plan to alter the nation’s pacifist constitution and Mr Abbott’s support for the move.

“While Japan has earned the reputation of a good international citizen, how much does it owe to its pacifist constitution, of which Abe and his cabinet are trying to change by reinterpreting its key article,” the agency said.

“Abbott, under fire for his unpopular budget, must have felt attached to Abe, who is also trying to push forward structural reforms in Japan.”

Xinhua also warned that personal favours should never be put ahead of national interests.

“Nor should it go under a moral bottom line.”

The attack by Xinhua is unprecedented from a nation that rarely ventures publicly into the internal affairs of another country.

Such is the level of feeling in Beijing against Japan that it approved a ferocious written attack that would never be tolerated inside China itself.

Rather than make any comments, let me just repeat the words of our Prime Minister:

“We admired the skill and the sense of honour that they brought to their task although we disagreed with what they did. Perhaps we grasped, even then, that with a change of heart the fiercest of opponents could be the best of friends,” the prime minister said.
He is talking about Japan in World War II.

edited 9th Jul '14 3:42:34 PM by medicus

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#1391: Jul 9th 2014 at 4:10:45 PM

^I got a 404 not found, but that's accurate if you're talking about his brain...

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#1393: Jul 10th 2014 at 12:20:02 AM

Same person who wanted it refunded? Are they doing it just out of spite/obstructionism now?

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#1394: Jul 10th 2014 at 12:20:48 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]I'm seeing Abbot become less of a supervillain and more of an ineffectual laughing stock every day. It requires a special level of stupid to say something like that. I wonder how the Murdoch press is going to manage to spin this one... Maybe they'll just pretend it didn't happen.

edited 10th Jul '14 12:51:15 AM by CardsOfWar

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Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1395: Jul 10th 2014 at 12:36:25 AM

[up][up] Apparently, Palmer found out at the last minute that the amendments he demanded in exchange for his party's vote weren't included in the repeal bill, which he chalked up to either government backstabbing or incompetence.

editerguy from Australia Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#1396: Jul 10th 2014 at 5:12:13 AM

PUP has come out swinging after Libs' 'betrayal', even calling for a sacking

Palmer isn't going to rule out deliberate trickery...

"But you never want to underestimate the incompetence of the Abbott Government"

Meanwhile, Lambie wants Abetz gone.

"I do believe that we've been treated unfairly and we've been lied to," Senator Lambie said tonight.

"We try to give them a little bit of trust and they've just blown it out of the water, so I guess she's open-slather."

The Tasmanian senator has also called for the Coalition's chief negotiator Senator Abetz - who is also from Tasmania - to be sacked.

She says the Government's negotiations have been "absolutely disgraceful" and she hasn't seen any "charm" emanating from Coalition senators.

"I must've missed that bit. It certainly didn't work for me. You can't charm the PU Ps, we're full of bite," she said.

"Eric Abetz needs to be sacked immediately and they need to put someone up there that's got some communications skills and that's not prepared to try and trick you because that's not the way forward."

This is priceless [lol]

The Abbott govt can't cut a break.

@Cronosonic

Abbot must be flipping tables in private now.

Yeah I mean he staked his reputation on this, now what's he supposed to do?

edited 10th Jul '14 5:16:13 AM by editerguy

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
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#1397: Jul 10th 2014 at 5:38:00 AM

Abbott has done nothing but implode gracelessly and destructively since he formed his government.

I just wish that the cost of his downward spiral into a laughingstock didn't endanger so many of the things that make Australia great.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#1398: Jul 10th 2014 at 7:53:56 AM

Extraordinary. They managed to screw it up so bad that even a party with a leader of a mining background voted against the carbon tax repeal?

Their incompetence have reached a new level.

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#1400: Jul 10th 2014 at 10:25:48 AM

See shit like this is why america needs a multi party system. votes actually happen instead of two sides just glaring at each other all year.

I'm baaaaaaack

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