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Evil Eye has three existing meanings off-wiki:

  • A curse ("the Evil Eye")
  • A glare ("giving someone the evil eye")
  • The literal interpretation of evil-looking eyes.
It is being misused as such both in wicks and on its own example list, and is being renamed.


Next round of roll-call: the new name. As before, we'll be taking votes for a minimum of 72 hours. The options: Vote [tup] or [tdown] on each option. For the sake of easy tallying and avoiding repeats, if you change your mind on something, please edit your original vote post (and make a new post saying you changed your mind if you'd like to post your reasons).

edited 3rd Apr '13 11:50:29 AM by Ironeye

Ironeye MOD Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#26: Mar 27th 2013 at 1:00:20 PM

I was thinking about a roll-call vote as well. Given that I talked to the other mods and they don't object, let's go ahead with it.


Voting will remain open for 72 hours unless (and I think this is unlikely) we're really close to the 2:1 line at that point. I will tally at ~36 hours and again at 72 hours.

Vote "[tup] Rename Evil Eye" or "[tdown] Don't rename Evil Eye".

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
#27: Mar 27th 2013 at 1:01:28 PM

[tup] Rename Evil Eye

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#28: Mar 27th 2013 at 1:08:56 PM

Good case for a rename, hence [tup] Rename Evil Eye.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#29: Mar 27th 2013 at 1:20:25 PM

I'm torn between transplant and rename...

eta: oh, but both options still mean a big ol' [tup] :)

edited 27th Mar '13 8:07:20 PM by Xtifr

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#30: Mar 27th 2013 at 1:25:08 PM

[up]Do you mean rename what this trope is supposed to be and use this name for an evil-looking glare?

[tup] Rename Evil Eye.

(By the way, I believe it would be a good idea to use those thread-header posts to show the results of the vote-by-posts. Better than a random post in the middle of the thread.)

edited 27th Mar '13 1:27:12 PM by AnotherDuck

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
#32: Mar 27th 2013 at 1:38:26 PM

Posted up a header and will tally votes there tomorrow night. I do see justification for putting "the Evil Eye" (i.e. the curse) at this name, so we'll definitely vote on that after we know whether or not this trope is staying at this name.

edited 27th Mar '13 1:39:26 PM by Ironeye

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#34: Mar 27th 2013 at 3:50:20 PM

Rename.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#35: Mar 27th 2013 at 3:51:37 PM

Yes. Eddie has just disabled the crowner software temporarily because of this.

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
#36: Mar 27th 2013 at 3:52:03 PM

Crowners are temporarily off-line, yes.

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#38: Mar 27th 2013 at 5:09:27 PM

[tup]Rename Evil Eye.

If the name stays at all, it should go to the curse or the evil glare.

edited 27th Mar '13 5:11:19 PM by ArcadesSabboth

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#40: Mar 27th 2013 at 8:06:04 PM

[up][up]With nearly 300 inbounds, there's no way the name is going away.

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#41: Mar 27th 2013 at 10:18:09 PM

[tup] for rename.

[up] I still don't understand why a few hundred inbounds are such a big deal. I would've prefered some proportionality-based approach where the number of inbounds is weighed against the severity of the problem(s).

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
#42: Mar 27th 2013 at 11:33:21 PM

We don't want to kill a bunch of off site links to the wiki. It makes us look unreliable. What we can do with awful names that have high inbounds is turn them into a faux redlink.

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#43: Mar 28th 2013 at 6:03:42 AM

[tup] to rename Evil Eye

[down] is a good suggestion.

edited 28th Mar '13 7:08:46 AM by Willbyr

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#44: Mar 28th 2013 at 6:35:45 AM

[tup] To rename and keep the previous name as a redirect. That will solve the inbound issue.

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#45: Mar 28th 2013 at 12:24:09 PM

We'll decide on that after we settle the rename. Personally, I would rather repurpose it to match idiomatic usage and misuse.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#46: Mar 28th 2013 at 1:44:22 PM

Redirect at first, but let it be up for grabs for an actual trope about it?

edited 28th Mar '13 1:44:50 PM by AnotherDuck

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#47: Mar 29th 2013 at 1:18:32 AM

Since misuse for the standard meaning of the term is a big part of the problem here...we have plenty of examples for the new trope already. The only thing we're missing is a description. It would seem like quite a waste to just throw away all those perfectly good examples of the trope that should have this name.

We could stash them in a sandbox till we're ready to deal with them, I suppose.

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Ironeye MOD Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
#48: Mar 31st 2013 at 3:45:23 PM

Well, getting pulled away from the computer stopped me from tallying properly...but the vote was unanimous anyway. Official result: 12-0 in favor of renaming.


Next order of business: new name for the current trope. Are there any suggestions other than Magic Eye and Magical Eye?

edited 31st Mar '13 3:45:28 PM by Ironeye

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MissKitten Luminescent Blush Since: Jul, 2012
#50: Mar 31st 2013 at 9:12:15 PM

Magically Empowered Eye ? Though really, Magical Eye is probably the best rename.

edited 31st Mar '13 9:12:50 PM by MissKitten


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