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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#1: Feb 26th 2013 at 4:33:51 AM

This one again.

Old image from a hentai manga cut removed under the content policy but nonetheless verified by IP/mods. New image added unilaterally by a bowlderising editor. I'm unsure of whether it's better as an image (as in, not taking into account the sources of either image) or not; thoughts?

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#2: Feb 26th 2013 at 5:56:23 AM

I think the old is better. They both illustrate the trope, but the new one may be confused with Hollywood Pudgy.

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#3: Feb 26th 2013 at 5:57:13 AM

I changed it back...not only was it an undiscussed change, it was text-heavy and just focussed on Emp's butt while the old pic clearly shows a typically overweight woman fretting over it.

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#4: Feb 26th 2013 at 6:03:24 AM

The new image is more prurient than the old one, so no, not agreeing on a switch for the reason given by the editor. Also, it's way too text-heavy.

Was the editor informed of the inappropriateness of the change?

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#5: Feb 26th 2013 at 6:13:36 AM

[up] I put in the edit reason to not make changes without going through IP...hopefully if he comes back he'll check the history before trying to change it again.

EDIT: Decided to PM him about it as well.

EDIT #2: [down] Oh...oh well, can't hurt to double up.

edited 26th Feb '13 6:17:14 AM by Willbyr

Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#7: Feb 26th 2013 at 6:18:27 AM

Yep, should we send one to Etaukan as well?

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#8: Feb 26th 2013 at 6:18:56 AM

Yes.

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#9: Feb 26th 2013 at 6:22:51 AM

Hold up, everyone, I've already PM'd etaukan...I missed the first edit to the pic. Everyone's been PM'd now.

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#10: Feb 26th 2013 at 6:31:38 AM

I see that that Pall Mall guy also took off the pic from Chubby Chaser without a thread...captainpat put it back, but if he does it again to that page or this one, LMK.

edited 26th Feb '13 6:31:56 AM by Willbyr

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#11: Feb 26th 2013 at 7:05:19 AM

I've reported them in ATT for another issue, for the record.

Otherwise, are we good with keeping this?

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#12: Feb 26th 2013 at 7:10:03 AM

I'm not averse to finding pics from works we can actually pothole for these two pages since their pics are the most risque of the "safe pics from cut works" batch that we have, but they work really well for their respective pages so replacements would have to be good.

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#13: Feb 26th 2013 at 1:24:55 PM

I have to say that both this one and the one from Chubby Chaser squick me out (the latter to a slightly lesser extent). Nothing to suggest right now though for either page. I don't think the Empowered one is really great/much of an improvement, though.

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#14: Feb 26th 2013 at 5:50:26 PM

I downsized the pics on both Weight Woe and Chubby Chaser by about 25%.

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#16: Feb 26th 2013 at 6:59:16 PM

If the page didn't have that note that said that the image was chosen by image picking and to not replace without starting a new thread then was it still wrong for the troper to change it?

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#17: Feb 26th 2013 at 7:21:04 PM

[up] You don't take pics off pages (especially for tropes) without discussion unless you're Eddie. A pic can also be pulled if it fits one of the insta-pull reasons, but you still make an IP thread about it.

edited 26th Feb '13 7:23:54 PM by Willbyr

KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#18: Feb 27th 2013 at 11:02:59 AM

I have to say that both this one and the one from Chubby Chaser squick me out (the latter to a slightly lesser extent). Nothing to suggest right now though for either page.

What the hell is squickish?

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edited 27th Feb '13 11:03:16 AM by KingZeal

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#19: Feb 27th 2013 at 11:11:16 AM

If none of them are supposed to be changed without discussion then why do only some of them say not to be removed without discussion if they were chosen by Image Pickin'. Does a person get in trouble either way but more trouble if the tropers chose it?

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#20: Feb 27th 2013 at 11:16:46 AM

It's not "never change without discussion" it's "previous choices of IP don't get changed without discussion" and "image changes should best go to IP"

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willthiswork Since: Oct, 2012
#21: Feb 27th 2013 at 1:34:37 PM

I find it a little squicky also, but I cannot pinpoint why. Something about how it is framed feels fetishistic and my mind associates that with some sort of stuffing senerio pretty much automatically for some reason. Over-exposure to terrible internet porn, I guess. Not a reason to cut, just an explaination.

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#22: Feb 27th 2013 at 4:28:23 PM

The image on Chubby Chaser makes me uncomfortable at least partly because of how much of a Personal Space Invader he's being.

There's something distracting about the other as well, but like willthiswork, I can't quite put my finger on it.

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#23: Feb 27th 2013 at 9:09:36 PM

Well, her anatomy is pretty out there.

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#25: Mar 4th 2013 at 4:36:14 PM

While we're on the subject of Chubby Chaser, the manga that image comes from has been translated since then, and it looks better than the troper-translation that's there now.

Would I need to start an IP thread for that, or would it be okay to just switch it, since it's just a variation on the same image?


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