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 1 Earl of Sandvich, Fri, 8th Feb '13 6:33:38 AM from the Palouse Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
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I'm really not sure what to make of this one. This is listed under the "character as devices" trope, but this page's description and its examples seem to be talking rather subjective tidbits about this kind of fandom, and also fandom in general with a couple of actual "character" tropes. There any way we can address this?
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 2 Septimus Heap, Fri, 8th Feb '13 6:36:12 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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The trope is about neutral members in a quarrelsome tema.

The "fandom" bits are trying to apply this trope to fandoms. We don't really need that.

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Team Switzerland found in: 28 articles, excluding discussions.

Since January 1, 2012 this article has brought 39 people to the wiki from non-search engine links.

More inbounds than wicks is unusual for a trope with this few. The trope doesn't seem all that healthy, though. How old is it?

The name itself suggests to me either "fans of switzerland", or an entire team that maintains a neutral position. I suspect that the fannish element of the description comes from things like "Team Edward". If this can apply to individuals, then I'd say the name is slightly misleading, but if it's like a clique within a larger team or group, then that's not an issue.

If this has been around for a while, and it's mentioned on related trope pages, then I might think the name is a problem. Otherwise, I recommend cross-wicking, especially to related tropes, and releasing it back into the wild.
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 4 Septimus Heap, Fri, 8th Feb '13 9:59:11 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Regardless of whether we rename, the description issue needs fixing.

 5 Another Duck, Fri, 8th Feb '13 10:23:29 AM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
I wonder if it would help to categorise the page. It looks a little messy as it is. Referring to fandom is essentially an Audience Reaction, but there are also real trope examples of it.

It does seem underused, but I don't think the name is hard to understand, unless there's evidence of misuse towards the literal meaning.
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Any reason not to cut the page?

My vote would be to make this apply to in-universe groups only and kill all references to fandom/shipping.

edited 10th Feb '13 2:44:31 PM by Catbert

 8 Noaqiyeum, Fri, 8th Feb '13 8:56:54 PM from across the gulf of space Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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Same.

I think the 'team' designation as a connection to fandom misuse seems plausible. If we do decide to rename on that basis, I propose Faction Switzerland.
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 9 Another Duck, Fri, 8th Feb '13 11:28:33 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
I edited the page a little to give a better view of the actual contents.

I think the Fandom folder can be axed for the improvement of TV Tropes.

The question is what to do with the rest of it. It's not exactly thriving.
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 10 Septimus Heap, Sat, 9th Feb '13 1:15:22 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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I do not feel that "team" has anything to do with fandom misuse.

The oldest item in the page history is 2010-2011.

I think some redirect farming could help here.

I do not see any links from related tropes worth mentioning in the Related Page, so I would probably go and add some.

edited 9th Feb '13 1:16:42 AM by SeptimusHeap

 11 lu 127, Fri, 15th Mar '13 6:46:49 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
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I'm good with Septimus's plan, which probably doesn't require TRS. Cross-wicking and listing a trope on related tropes is a free action. :)
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 13 Another Duck, Fri, 15th Mar '13 6:42:13 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
There's some weak support for cutting the Fandom folder. Personally I don't really think it adds much to the page, but once separated like this, it doesn't hurt as much as it did before.

Should we?

edited 15th Mar '13 6:42:40 PM by AnotherDuck

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 14 Septimus Heap, Sat, 16th Mar '13 7:52:58 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Crosswicked. Go ahead and cut the fandom material.

Yeah, I say cut the fandom examples and purge the fandom parts from the description.

 16 Another Duck, Mon, 18th Mar '13 2:38:31 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
Right. Fandom is cut away.

Anything more need to be done? Some index it can be put on?
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 17 Septimus Heap, Mon, 18th Mar '13 2:49:43 PM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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It's already on Characters as Device.

 18 Another Duck, Mon, 18th Mar '13 3:14:54 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
Some other index it can be put on?
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 19 Septimus Heap, Tue, 19th Mar '13 9:55:05 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Can't find any fitting ones, beyond the indexes on the compared tropes: Romanticism Versus Enlightenment and Sliding Scale of Leadership Responsibility.

 20 Another Duck, Tue, 19th Mar '13 2:31:53 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
Okay. Are we done, then?
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 21 Septimus Heap, Tue, 19th Mar '13 2:38:42 PM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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I think so.

 22 Another Duck, Tue, 19th Mar '13 2:49:31 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
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