Steven Universe

Maybe Translation Convention rather than Microbes. One is for the audience the other if in universe

edited 25th Sep '17 9:46:26 AM by sgamer82

I always figured it was the microbes because there's never been any sort of problem with human-gem communication. I mean, sure, it makes sense that the Crystal Gems have all learned English from the amount of time they've been around Beach City (I think it was close to a century or more, right?). And maybe I can buy that Greg understood Blue Pearl and Blue Diamond because he may have picked up Gem-ese from Rose and maybe the other Crystal Gems. However, Lars was perfectly capable of understanding everything that any Homeworld gem said, and it's pretty strongly suggested that the others that Aquamarine and Topaz caught were similarly understanding everything that was said.

I mean, if you think about it, there's a pretty good reason for a race of interstellar conquerors to be able to quickly be able to speak new languages. And it's certainly not nearly as incredible an ability as some of the ones various gems have demonstrated (like Garnet's electricity or Lapis' hydrokinesis).

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Maybe it's the other way around: Humans got their language from Gems?

edited 25th Sep '17 10:02:30 AM by sgamer82

But that wasn't so blatant—most people have never heard of Holley, Oregon, and they even spelled her name as "Holly". The namesake of "Sugilite" is non-obvious for the same reason.

I'll admit I forgot Alexanderite, but at least that's a given name, and thus sounds a bit more generic. When you hear the name "Stevensite", your first thought is likely to be "that's named after a guy whose last is name is Stevens".

@51699 The idea that humans got their language from gems strikes me as extremely unlikely, as if that were the case, it'd be extremely unlikely that there would be mutual understanding at all. Languages evolve and drift over time, and the split between Homeworld and Earth was over 5000 years ago. History shows just how much languages drift and evolve over fairly rapid periods of time. Just compare the United States and England. Not only has the separation between the two only been about 225 years, but there's still regular communication between the two plus sharing of pop culture such that our cultures in some ways are less distinct than they were 100 years ago... and yet Separated by a Common Language is a very real phenomenon.

Even if you were to assume that the Crystal Gems (and let's be honest - by that, I mean Rose Quartz, because I don't see the other three bothering) taught language to humanity, language would have sufficiently evolved and drifted such that what Lars spoke would be completely incomprehensible to gems unless some sort of power gave them the ability to understand him.

@51700 Well, okay, I'll grant that Holly Blue being named after a location wasn't as obvious, but the stone was named after something with a proper name pretty obviously (I initially thought it was named after who had discovered it). Still, I think there's enough examples that the showrunners are not going to avoid a given gemstone just because it was named after a real person or place. Now, you could potentially convince me that they wouldn't specifically use the name "Stevensite" because of possible One-Steve Limit (pardon the pun) reasons. Or maybe for plot-pertinent reasons. That said, you could probably make just as solid of an argument that "Stevensite" would be the name of all of the Crystal Gems fusing - maybe that's where Rose got the name. But I don't buy that they wouldn't use a gem name that's otherwise used for a person's name.

Relatedly, approaching from the other direction, and I know I'm not the first to wonder this, but I wonder if they've considered using Amber as a gem.

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The people in the comments section seem to think it confirms the return of Mystery Girl and another musical episode,but it could be. something different.

edited 25th Sep '17 3:05:46 PM by Ultimatum

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Wondering how far they'll stray from the "inorganic life forms" concept when it comes to gem types? As far as level of divergence, I'd say you've got the ones that are only partial organic (pearl, ammonite), the ones that are organic byproducts of a living beings (amber, copal), and then finally you have ones that are just directly made from the remains of a living creature (coral, ivory, jet).

Of course, Pearl's name was chosen super early in the series pitch, back when the gems had a purely magical origin. Once they settled on their origin in the actual show, it's entirely possible they decided against biologically created gemstones for future gem types, Pearl was just grandfathered in.

I'm not sure if one of the crew being named Amber makes the idea more or less likely.

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Seriously though, this is actually really interesting. An original song for the show, perhaps?

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First, didn't know that there was an Amber on-staff. Though isn't Steven's namesake on staff, too? If so, I think that means it's not completely out of the realm of possibility.

For the real world origins, I think you can argue that a pearl is a byproduct of an organic creature. That being said, if I were running the show and deciding to include an Amber, I'd probably give them a similar position to a Pearl in Homeworld's scheme... maybe even have Ambers produced for lower-caste gems in the same way higher-caste gems receive Pearls.

That said, the "grandfathered" point is probably correct. I'm not exactly holding my breath for an Amber to show up.

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They're Steven Sugar and Amber Cragg.

edited 26th Sep '17 8:38:02 AM by Crossover-Enthusiast

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It is. I was saying as it's a partially organic one, as opposed to an entirely organic one like amber.

edited 26th Sep '17 11:18:49 AM by thatother1dude

Do pearls even count as gems in the real world? I dunno. I didn't do much geology in college. Maybe a geologist or chemist or whathaveyou could shed some light on that.

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A gem(stone) is a piece of jewelry, not a geological material. They can be made of minerals, rocks, bone, and even hair.

edited 27th Sep '17 2:42:12 PM by thatother1dude

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I just go with the headcanon that gems are Omniglots so language barriers aren't ever a problem,so they knew dialects humans would understand before they even met the humans.

The weird thing is,gems clearly have a language of their own because we've seen their writings,so it will be interesting to hear how their language actually sounds once Steven starts learning it but I swear it’s murmurmur I will kick somebody

edited 27th Sep '17 5:41:33 PM by Ultimatum

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This amuses me.

Ahh, I see.

Heh. That is indeed amusing.

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That's good.

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Hah

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Also, if Google isn't just having a laugh at me, a gem can also be an alternate name for muffins (the Internet tells me that this was apparently Brand Name Takeover that since has been reversed - one of the most popular bakeware companies making muffin tins at one time was the Gem Company). Huh - The More You Know (tm). Clearly, this means that even higher than the Diamond Authority is the Blueberry Authority.

In all seriousness, "gem" doesn't have a scientific meaning, so generally I think it means any non-malleable hard object of value. Though most are, as noted, mineral crystals, but not all of them (Pearl being the most notable one not named after a mineral crystal).

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I chuckled at this

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Pearl: From now on I resolve to always ask follow up questions!

A theory that this season is going to be the saddest/bleakest yet.

It's food for thought, at least.

edited 28th Sep '17 5:41:48 PM by Crossover-Enthusiast

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Maybe not the saddest,but things are looking bleak,since 'Rose' surrendered to them they'll probably turn their attention to the surviving Crystal Gems,their patience with the Cluster emerging and killing them may have finally run out,so deploying ground troops or shattering robonoids is a possibility

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Welp. This is officially the longest hiatus Steven Universe has ever had.

edited 30th Sep '17 5:26:12 PM by Crossover-Enthusiast

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The longest hiatus, you mean?

Yeah, this isn't fun. At all. Like, I know how this usually goes, this is the first death nail for fandoms.

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