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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#36526: Jul 29th 2016 at 8:52:16 AM

[up]If the narrative was an addiction narrative, that would be fine. I'd probably feel more sympathetic towards Jasper. But Alone at Sea is an abuse narrative and Jasper is being played as the Bastard Boyfriend in the scenario.

Yes, I think with the right development it is possible for Jasper to be redeemed, but right now I really dislike the character. I also think it'll end up being a bit of a Broken Aesop if everyone expects Lapis and Jasper to start getting along at some point, or if they ever fuse again.

Oissu!
SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#36527: Jul 29th 2016 at 8:53:16 AM

Just because your abusive partner is addicted to crack doesn't make them not an abusive partner.

Ah, what a page-topper.

edited 29th Jul '16 8:53:41 AM by SalFishFin

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#36528: Jul 29th 2016 at 8:59:16 AM

They're. Both. Abusive. It's shown pretty clearly. Hell, Lapis outright says she abused Jasper right back. Not every toxic relationship consists of one victim and one abuser. They can both be abusive, they can both be victims.

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#36529: Jul 29th 2016 at 9:01:02 AM

I'm sure that since the show is starting to show Jasper's weakness (i.e. an obsession with power), they'll find a way to redeem Jasper in a way that still acknowledges the things she's done.

Now, can we please change the subject?

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#36530: Jul 29th 2016 at 9:49:37 AM

So, uh...which Steven Universe character would be good in a Death Battle?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#36531: Jul 29th 2016 at 9:51:56 AM

Going back to mozzarella sticks, yes, they were fresh. And I eat plenty deep fried stuff, fish, chips, especially Mcnuggets. Really, I think it's the mozzarella that didn't got me - and I'm type of guy that would like to put molten cheese on everything.

[up] Garnet, probably works best. We just don't know enough about characters who weren't in first episode.

edited 29th Jul '16 9:53:43 AM by Sunchet

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#36532: Jul 29th 2016 at 9:57:00 AM

I'm not so sure this will be a breather, given what's implied in this time period. This show's tone is all over the damn place though, so I could be wrong.

I'm glad Steven wasn't able to heal Centi right away. The Gems have told him Rose couldn't do it no matter how hard she tried. If Steven were able to fully restore her within an episode, that would take away some of Rose's credibility.

Okay glad might not be the right word, but it gave us more crumbs of the backstory, which is always great. I don't like heavy exposition dumps, as I've said before. Sometimes eleven-minute episodes have their advantages. It ensures the content has to be lean and to the point, cutting out any redundant material and exploring a small theme in its runtime.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#36533: Jul 29th 2016 at 9:57:49 AM

Does Sapphire count as outside help? They might have to put Garnet up against another fused character. But going up against Vegito wouldn't really be fair.

edited 29th Jul '16 9:58:12 AM by xanderiskander

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#36534: Jul 29th 2016 at 10:12:40 AM

It took probably longer then it should have, but it feels good to be finally caught up. Season Four has been pretty solid all around. I liked having some Beach City focus episodes after Lapis and Peridot got settled, it always nice to see what's going with the rest of town folk and get some real character development in. Though that combined with some of the stuff that's happened in the most recent episodes gives me the feeling that something really bad is about to happen by the end of the summer.

As an aside I'm kind of surprised at the amount of controversy the most recent episode has caused, but considering the subject matter I really shouldn't be.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#36535: Jul 29th 2016 at 10:13:21 AM

It's Season 3, not Season 4.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#36536: Jul 29th 2016 at 10:13:28 AM

Four? We're halfway through three right now.

Oh really when?
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#36537: Jul 29th 2016 at 10:18:09 AM

How many weeks do we still have of Summer of Steven?

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#36538: Jul 29th 2016 at 10:19:09 AM

Two. Week 3 and 4 are supposedly gonna be a doozy.

Oh really when?
Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#36539: Jul 29th 2016 at 10:20:45 AM

[up][up][up][up],[up][up][up]Oh.

Well I guess that's what I get for listening to Amazon's ordering and episode groupings.

edited 29th Jul '16 10:20:57 AM by Mio

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#36540: Jul 29th 2016 at 10:28:48 AM

[up] Oh, yeah. Amazon's the worst when it comes to listing the episodes.

I just look at the Wikipedia article.

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#36541: Jul 29th 2016 at 10:46:35 AM

Obviously I'm quite late to this but I just have to say, 'And today on your 10 year old's favorite brightly coloured cartoon, a paper thin metaphor for an abusive lesbian relationship. Only on the Cartoon Network, the only network who's president's children are being held hostage a Rebecca Sugar.'

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#36542: Jul 29th 2016 at 11:06:59 AM

Remember that "Steven Universe" isn't all Marshmallows and Gumdrop eyes, it's actually just a facade that leads you into a false sense of security in order to buy into all the real-life drama it chooses to represent in a respectable manor. It's unlikely that anyone would ever see that by taking one surface level look at the show.

YO. Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie.
thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#36543: Jul 29th 2016 at 11:13:09 AM

Oh, yeah. Amazon's the worst when it comes to listing the episodes.
It makes it a lot easier to sell seasons if they have equal numbers of seasons, and season one is twice as long as the others. The only alternative is to use the show's own confusing "1a/b" demarcation.

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#36544: Jul 29th 2016 at 12:16:20 PM

After last night's episode, I really needed this kind of low-brow parody.

p.s. My thoughts/discourse on the episode aside, how weird would it be to see Malachite fly?

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#36545: Jul 29th 2016 at 12:19:09 PM

We've already seen Malachite fly.

edited 29th Jul '16 12:19:47 PM by xanderiskander

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#36546: Jul 29th 2016 at 12:56:50 PM

[up][up] So what I can get from that, Pearl is thirsty for any Quartz. tongue

DeathsApprentice Jaded Techie Fox from The Grim Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Jaded Techie Fox
#36547: Jul 29th 2016 at 12:58:38 PM

[up][up][up] Jaspearl now confirmed canon. tongue

Trust you? The only person I can trust is myself.
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#36550: Jul 29th 2016 at 2:32:36 PM

Tweet it at Matt Burnett. He'll love it.

edited 29th Jul '16 2:32:45 PM by xanderiskander


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