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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#1276: Jan 12th 2016 at 4:14:35 AM

I think main thing with idea is that Japanese entertainment industry might not be first think Fire Emblem and SMT fans are interested about .-. I mean, maybe there is some overlap, but still

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#1277: Jan 12th 2016 at 9:34:46 PM

Truth be told the Idol setting is a pretty good idea for a game. I expected atlas to make such a game dealing with the topics especially after the new P4 game. Its just they picked the worst fucking game to try the concept on.

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#1278: Jan 13th 2016 at 9:52:18 AM

[up] I've heard people suggest there was no other way they could make the game besides turning it into an idol fantasy game. I'm no game designer, but I'm pretty sure there were many other ways to make this game without turning it into P 4 D without the commentary on the idol culture.

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#1279: Jan 13th 2016 at 8:55:12 PM

I just had a look at the designs of the FE characters, and while they certainly look... elaborate, there's almost NO way to tell who some of them are unless you were told upfront. I mean they look great, but still.

Also, Excellus. He looks like a goddamned Recognizer! With boobs!

edited 13th Jan '16 8:59:01 PM by GreatT

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#1280: Jan 17th 2016 at 5:29:59 AM

[up]Speaking of Excellus's "boingy bits," wasn't Excellus supposed to be a villainous transvestite in the Japanese version or something?

So, if they do make a sequel to this game, which Fire Emblem game do you think they will pull characters from? And if they do not go back to using performers and singers, what sort of premise do you hope the next game will have? And be more specific than just "An actual crossover with Shin Megami Tensei, please.

Personally, I want to see something like Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey with either characters from Fire Emblem Fates or Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones.

Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#1281: Jan 17th 2016 at 5:43:55 AM

Well, when it comes to Fire Emblem series, it's Tellius or GTFO for me.

As for the theme, I dunno. Modern World is fine, I just don't like idols much.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1282: Jan 17th 2016 at 12:38:32 PM

I don't mind the entertainment industry. Just don't do it with mostly Idols.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1283: Jan 17th 2016 at 12:41:57 PM

Yeah. The Idols things seems to be the biggest problem.

I mean, even Japan was apparently giving a big What the fuck Atlus!? at that choice, and they love Idols.

The fact that this came out shortly after Persona 4 Dancing All Night which is less favourable to the Idol industry probably didn't help, alongside all the other shit people have brought up.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1284: Jan 17th 2016 at 12:43:18 PM

It wasn't that unfavorable and still overlooked a number of problems the idol industry has. Along with downplaying the number of creepy fans by just having it be the same four guys saying the same things.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1285: Jan 17th 2016 at 12:43:56 PM

Oh.

Well then, guess their just a bunch of chicken shits.

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Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#1286: Jan 17th 2016 at 11:59:30 PM

Hopefully the hate can die down and people can either ignore this game for Fates and SMT IV Final or play it when it comes out. The sides that praise this game like it's perfection, and the people who bash it have really gotten on my nerves.

Also again I doubt Atlus will do a sequel to this one consider it might get less sales.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1287: Jan 18th 2016 at 6:17:25 AM

Yeah. I don't know what Atlus was thinking.

It's like they wanted the concept to fail.

I'm still getting it myself for the time being, but there's no way we'll ever see something like this again.

Then again, there was the problem of the game being advertised way too soon, being hyped during the time there was no info, and then....this came up.

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Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#1288: Jan 18th 2016 at 10:39:29 AM

It was a marketing fiasco. I might get it just because of the "we will never get something like this again" factor, but I probably won't be standing in any lines for it.

Both because I won't be there for release, and because I highly doubt there will be any lines at all.

KalloonWhite Since: Nov, 2011
#1289: Jan 18th 2016 at 12:59:13 PM

I don't know, I feel like Atlus has done more with worse circumstances.

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#1290: Jan 18th 2016 at 1:53:08 PM

[up] I don't think any other Atlus games has been this hated. Sure they are games they sponsored that were hardly even thought about but this game...

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KalloonWhite Since: Nov, 2011
#1291: Jan 18th 2016 at 2:01:30 PM

Yeah, but it's not like this is the worst thing ever or anything, it was just people building expectations for something they weren't going to get.

Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#1292: Jan 18th 2016 at 3:22:23 PM

[up]"People" in this case being mostly "Nintendo", with their reveal trailer.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#1293: Jan 18th 2016 at 3:33:16 PM

Yeah, it's hard to blame the fans for this one; they started marketing this thing before they even knew what it was going to be about!

KalloonWhite Since: Nov, 2011
#1294: Jan 18th 2016 at 6:34:44 PM

Still not a bad game, though.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1295: Jan 18th 2016 at 6:58:48 PM

Nope, but at this point, it doesn't matter if it's a bad game or not.

It was still a bad idea on a lot of other levels.

Still getting it. But that's because I'm odd that way.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#1296: Feb 8th 2016 at 9:12:42 AM

So this thing just kinda fizzled, huh? Haven't heard anything about it in a while.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#1297: Feb 8th 2016 at 9:22:00 AM

That's probably because a lot of people in this thread are avoiding spoilers and it's not out in the US or Europe yet.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1300: Feb 25th 2016 at 11:22:00 AM

That's good to hear.

I don't think anyone doubted the gameplay would be good.

The premise threw many people off, angered many more, and scared a few away, but we all knew it would play great.

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