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Deadlock Clock: Feb 14th 2013 at 11:59:00 PM
TropeEater That One Troper from the depths of Hell Since: Mar, 2012
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#1: Jan 12th 2013 at 11:04:35 AM

It's just a Fairy in a Bottle from The Legend Of Zelda. note 

I can't think of a better image to use on this page, but the one here looks like it would fit nicely on Bottle Fairy Fairy in a Bottle (probably better than the one already there).

Motion to pull here and put up on Fairy in a Bottle.

edited 13th Jan '13 5:20:40 PM by TropeEater

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#2: Jan 12th 2013 at 11:19:02 AM

Fairy in a Bottle has already a good picture. Bottle Fairy is a disambig.

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nitrokitty Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
#3: Jan 12th 2013 at 12:25:22 PM

Agree with both of you. The Auto-Revive pic doesn't illustrate the trope unless you're familiar with the Legend Of Zelda, but Fairy in a Bottle already has a great pic and doesn't need a new one.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#4: Jan 12th 2013 at 1:10:22 PM

Previous thread: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1339805564074260100

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#5: Jan 12th 2013 at 6:34:52 PM

I don't think it harms the page. Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

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#6: Jan 12th 2013 at 8:14:17 PM

It is not at all obvious what that has to do with the trope.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#7: Jan 12th 2013 at 8:51:55 PM

^^ I think that "doesn't harm the page" bar is too low. "Doesn't help at all" is harm. It makes it look like we think in-jokes or opaque references are okay. There isn't a "no effect at all" rung on that ladder, that's not possible. It would take very, very little for it to add something and for me to agree that it's not hurting anything. But if it's not even a little bit good, it's bad. It's just an example above the example line. You absolutely must be familiar with Legend Of Zelda for it to make sense, the idea of fairies doing auto-revive is unique to that series.

Agree with getting rid of it.

edited 12th Jan '13 9:02:46 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#8: Jan 12th 2013 at 8:59:39 PM

I'm fine with pulling it.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#9: Jan 12th 2013 at 9:15:51 PM

[up][up]I disagree. On the other hand, I don't particularly care if it's pulled. I just don't see a convincing argument that it should be pulled.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#10: Jan 12th 2013 at 9:20:25 PM

I think "it doesn't help at all, not even a little bit" is a convincing argument, because that is harm.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#11: Jan 12th 2013 at 9:24:13 PM

"I disagree."

[down][down]That wasn't new, and the purpose of just quoting myself was to stop the pointless derail. Use a PM if you must know the details.

edited 13th Jan '13 12:08:11 AM by AnotherDuck

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#12: Jan 12th 2013 at 9:52:18 PM

I say pull. It is a textbook Just A Face And A Caption:

  • Depicts an example of the trope with no visual context; aka contains zero information about the trope concept.
  • Requires familiarity with the source work to interpret its relation to the trope.

If it were a picture of the fairy in action (even as an Item Get!) it might work, but as it stands it's JAFAAC.

edited 12th Jan '13 9:57:13 PM by Stratadrake

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#13: Jan 12th 2013 at 11:51:46 PM

"I think it's a convincing argument" is (previously not explicit) new information, "I disagree" is not :)

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#14: Jan 13th 2013 at 7:02:37 AM

Link revives Sora with a bottle fairy. Needs author's permission.

edited 13th Jan '13 7:03:15 AM by Earnest

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#15: Jan 13th 2013 at 7:03:26 AM

404

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#17: Jan 13th 2013 at 7:05:17 AM

Afraid the fairy isn't all that obvious.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#18: Jan 13th 2013 at 7:19:00 AM

It shows the exact opposite. The trope is "something that revives you automatically after death." That image has someone else using the item of revival, meaning it's actively misleading.

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#21: Jan 13th 2013 at 8:49:53 AM

It's better in that it actually indicates what it does, so on that basis it's good enough for me, but something actually showing the trope would be better.

edited 13th Jan '13 8:50:14 AM by Willbyr

ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#22: Jan 13th 2013 at 9:02:21 AM

Honestly, I was hoping to find an image of a fairy actively reviving a dead Link in A Link to the Past, but GIS is showing me exactly 0 relevant images.

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#23: Jan 13th 2013 at 12:27:57 PM

[up] If you're willing to settle for lower quality, we could probably screencap a Let's Play or something.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#24: Jan 13th 2013 at 1:03:49 PM

The visuals add that it's an item description in a video game.

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#25: Jan 13th 2013 at 1:08:25 PM

Yeahh, the text just restates (somewhat complicately) the trope name. The fairy and videogame bits are in the image.

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