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EddieValiantJr Not Quite Batman from home. Since: Oct, 2010
Not Quite Batman
#26: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:10:16 PM

Is lucid dreaming a real thing? And is it as realistic-seeming as the people who espouse it make it sound?

"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft Next
ThatOneGuyNamedX Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#27: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:11:59 PM

Depends on the person, but I've heard accounts that it is a very real thing :)

SimplyWhatever bla bla bla from bla bla bla Since: Sep, 2011
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#28: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:13:14 PM

[up]x5 I don't think I've ever wanted that. Granted, it's probably in part due to how I don't judge characters based on how I'd like it if they were real. And anyway, some characters, despite being interesting, I wouldn't wish to be real. For example, I can't really want Optimus Prime to exist and come to earth, because that would mean the earth is under huge threat. I wouldn't want Cthulhu or Nyarlathotep to be real either because, well...

Okay, maybe I should use characters that don't come from stories where mankind is under huge threat. I think some characters I'd probably find annoying if I had to actually deal with them. Better leave them in the box (or flatscreen or whatever) where I can observe them, but they can't bother me.

@Carci: Yeah, that inspiration thing is what I was trying to get at with my Ultraman example.

edited 5th Nov '12 1:33:37 PM by SimplyWhatever

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InfalliableLiar Void Waiter from Future nothing Location Since: Oct, 2012
Void Waiter
#29: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:16:28 PM

I highly doubt anything will ever convert me. Unless there is a god who is willing to show up in my life time.

@And as for lucid dreaming. I just found out about it. Apparently most people don't dream like that. Every dream I ever had(or at least every dream I remember) has been lucid dreams till about a week ago. For two nights in a row I had, I guess normal, dreams. They scared the shit out of me when I woke up. I couldn't tell a dream was a dream. Shook me badly.

edited 5th Nov '12 1:17:21 PM by InfalliableLiar

Stop caring and embrace nullness.
EddieValiantJr Not Quite Batman from home. Since: Oct, 2010
Not Quite Batman
#30: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:35:18 PM

I get the feeling my predicament is more uncommon than I thought. As a person in general I'm more emotional than average, sometimes to my detriment. Sometimes I get unreasonably angry or unreasonably sad (usually the latter) over things that are non-issues to most people.

"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft Next
ThatOneGuyNamedX Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#31: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:37:18 PM

Well, whenever you think reality isn't awesome, watch this video :P

Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
Is that cake frosting?
#32: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:37:49 PM

I do all the flag waving whenever humans do something mildly cool, but in my heart I know it will never be as cool as anything a god can do.
Please don't take this as an attempt to proselytize; but speaking as a theist, I don't really think of God as some sort of magical Reality Warper who can do amazing stuff by snapping his fingers. Like most atheists, not only I have no reason to believe that such a being exists, but I would simply have no reason to want to bow to it if it existed. Power alone is not even close to enough to buy my worship; and even benevolence, in itself, could gain only my respect and nothing more.

I won't go into my personal understanding of God here, because, well, that's not the topic; but speaking of "coolness", I think that humans definitely have the advantage over an hypothetical Reality Warper. What we obtain, we obtain through determination and effort. Our achiements are cool, because they require struggle. Because we, as a species, earned them. That what amounts to a feral praire chimp managed to set foot on the Moon is awesome; and it is awesome precisely because we did that all by ourselves. A Dr Manhattan teleporting Armstrong and company to Mars would have been way less cool.

edited 5th Nov '12 1:40:28 PM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
EddieValiantJr Not Quite Batman from home. Since: Oct, 2010
Not Quite Batman
#33: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:48:56 PM

Carciofus, that's one of the coolest things I've read in quite some time.

(That One Guy, I can't watch the video right now but I'll get around to it. I opened it on mute and saw a man in a wheelchair about to roll down a huge slide and already I can't wait to get home.)

edited 5th Nov '12 1:49:12 PM by EddieValiantJr

"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft Next
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#34: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:50:22 PM

Carciofus, that's one of the coolest things I've read in quite some time.

You've met him. There is plenty more where that came from. grin

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
ThatOneGuyNamedX Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#35: Nov 5th 2012 at 1:51:36 PM

[up][up] I meant it as kind of a joke on the whole subject in general, but yeah :P it's kinda cool.

lordGacek KVLFON from Kansas of Europe Since: Jan, 2001
KVLFON
#36: Nov 5th 2012 at 2:34:43 PM

One can try to make life more like fiction. Personally though I rather waste my time, like, in the Internet, until the feeling passes.

"Atheism is the religion whose followers are easiest to troll"
Tre 82123 from the front to the back, that's where I was at (Unlucky Thirteen) Relationship Status: Singularity
82123
#37: Nov 5th 2012 at 2:56:02 PM

I write about it.

The end result... well, jeez, I don't think I need to bother elaborating if you know anything about me en generale.

edited 5th Nov '12 2:57:40 PM by Tre

oh, that's why I need this binary mind //
LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#38: Nov 5th 2012 at 3:02:23 PM

I have a real life friend who expressed this sentiment to me once - that real life would never be as cool as the books she read.

I don't really know what to do about it, because I encouraged her to go and find some adventure in the real world but she won't. sad

Be not afraid...
lordGacek KVLFON from Kansas of Europe Since: Jan, 2001
KVLFON
#39: Nov 5th 2012 at 3:12:52 PM

Oh, and it just came to me — the fiction is more interesting than life almost by definition, pretty much. Even if it is plain ole' all-too-mundane slice-of-life drama, it has to be written interestingly enough to make anyone read it at all.

"Atheism is the religion whose followers are easiest to troll"
IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#40: Nov 5th 2012 at 3:19:22 PM

Well, there is a thing called "too much of a good thing". I'm pretty sure that any interesting thing becomes boring when it becomes common/routine. A wizard from Dn D will probably find our lives in real life as interesting as we find his in fantasy. Hell, if we somehow managed to pick any person from merely 30 years ago and bring him/her to the present, s/he will find our lives interesting at first, particularly the stuff that s/he does not have in her own time period.

Hence why people travel I suppose. Anything that is outside of your habit is interesting pretty much.

lordGacek KVLFON from Kansas of Europe Since: Jan, 2001
KVLFON
#41: Nov 5th 2012 at 3:22:17 PM

Not to mention that most fiction people fawn over is not slice-of-life. It's easy to lead a cool life if you're, like, a magical princess, or a farmhand destined to defeat the local Evil Overlord, instead of being a farmhand whole your life. And at the same time people tend to disregard that the farmhand usually loses his family in the process.

"Atheism is the religion whose followers are easiest to troll"
IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#42: Nov 5th 2012 at 4:12:12 PM

I would believe that fighting and defeating an Evil Overlord routinely (like once per week) would make that a boring task too. Much like how the police find catching and arresting criminals to be far less interesting than most of us imagine.

CountDorku Official Tesladyne Employee TM from toiling in the Space Mines Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Official Tesladyne Employee TM
#43: Nov 5th 2012 at 7:52:48 PM

"You must cross the Meteoric Mountains to the Plains of Banes, and thereby delve into the Catacombs of Peril to seize the Ruby of Dwarven Might to show to the Great Dragon Sage Ardaxar."
"Again?!"

You are dazzled by my array of very legal documents.
InverurieJones '80s TV Action Hero from North of the Wall. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
'80s TV Action Hero
#44: Nov 7th 2012 at 9:08:35 AM

Re. OP: By deliberately turning myself into the kind of person I liked to read about.

It seemed the only way.

'All he needs is for somebody to throw handgrenades at him for the rest of his life...'
maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
Mad Scientist Wannabe
#45: Nov 7th 2012 at 10:21:36 AM

How do I cope? I go outside and get some fresh air. That clears me up.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
ThatOneGuyNamedX Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
TheFreeman from Hialeah,FL. Since: Mar, 2011
#47: Nov 7th 2012 at 10:50:05 AM

The sun is too bright and scary, so no.

CountDorku Official Tesladyne Employee TM from toiling in the Space Mines Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Official Tesladyne Employee TM
#48: Nov 7th 2012 at 11:06:23 AM

Why do people keep talking about outside like it's so great?

There are drop bears outside!

Also burning sky orbs.

And snakes.

You are dazzled by my array of very legal documents.
Lemurian from Touhou fanboy attic Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#49: Nov 7th 2012 at 11:09:05 AM

And rain and sleet and hail and biting cold wind.

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Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#50: Nov 7th 2012 at 11:12:10 AM

The people who long for fiction to be reality are clearly looking at one side of the coin. Sure, it can be way better than reality, but it can also be a fuckton worse.


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