Mockingbird Lane / Munsters remake.

O_O

(I mean, normally I'd be like "eh", but this is NBC we're talking about.)

edited 27th Oct '12 3:53:08 PM by Wackd

It was NBC's biggest Friday Night ratings in 10 years.

So...it goes to series now, right? This is the part where NBC announces it goes to series, buries it and moves it around the schedule, and gives us a good season and a half at most before cancelling it because Bryan Fuller's life is pain?

edited 27th Oct '12 5:18:23 PM by Wackd

They already cancelled it for the pilot being so expensive and late. You have nothing to fear.

But Fuller said that if the pilot got good enough ratings they'd consider it...

:D

I mean, it's not as if Fuller doesn't have another show being filmed right now (the Hannibal thing with CAROLINE DHAVERNAS) but I'd still be happy for this.

edited 28th Oct '12 1:18:05 AM by Nicknacks

According to Fuller he'd split the production schedule straight down the middle of the year so he could give his full attention to both should they both go to series.

Easy to accomplish since NBC will accommodate him, as opposed to if he pulled this on two different networks.

edited 28th Oct '12 2:35:47 AM by Wackd

He's such a stud.

I'll be interested to seeing whether he can pull a second season out of either of his shows without straining something.

NBC has publicly said that they're moving away from expensive, sophisticated comedies and back to three camera sitcoms, because Community and Parks & Recreation had niche audiences. Can't say I blame them, CBS is bending them over nightly.

Point is, I don't think they'll spring for ML this late int he game.

Which is too bad. I fully expected to hate this, and ended up really liking it. Eddie Izzard was absolutely brilliant.

I think this may be the quickest Portia de Rossi's presence has ever killed a series.

(Oh, and Community is coming back in February, after 30 Rock ends, if anyone was still wondering.)

You think this is Portia's fault? Arrested Development lasted three seasons, Better Off Ted lasted two.

No, this is on Bryan Fuller. He's had one show with four episodes aired, one show that aired seven episodes before firing and replacing him, and one show that just made it to 22 episodes and got Cut Short. One wonders why the fuck he even bothers with TV anymore.

edited 30th Oct '12 9:13:47 PM by Wackd

A combination, then. :P

Fuller didn't get fired from DLM, he quit. Unless some story came out later I missed. I think he left earlier too.

I always heard he was fired, but regardless, he didn't last on the show long. I hear the execs gave him a lot of shit for being gay and told him hiring Gayheart (eh...) was proof he didn't know what an attractive woman looked like.

Does it piss anyone else off that John Masius and Stephen Godchaux had creative control and wrote most of the episodes after Fuller's death, and arguably took it in a better direction than Fuller would've ("my dad is a closeted gay therefore I shouldn't exist"? Really?), and yet DLM is always called a Bryan Fuller show? Fuller's awesome but there really should be a case of My Real Daddy here.

edited 31st Oct '12 11:26:38 AM by Wackd

First point: I think that's why he quit.

Second: Wellllllllllllllll. the pilot is by far my favourite episode of the show and one of my favourites ever, so I wish he'd stayed. And the my Dad is gay therefore I wasn't destined to exist was an odd idea sure but it makes a kind of sense to me....it could have been a disaster but well, we won't know.

Yeah, I guess Masius and Godchaux were underappreciated, they did a great job with the show (although they wrote the movie and that was terrible) but it's not that well-known a show so I don't think it's a huge slight against them. If it were more popular, they'd have been interviewed in the press and gotten recognition.

The movie...yeah. To be fair to them, it'd been five years and they had a major absence to write around. But while I agree the movie was awful, that hardly nulls out a season and a half of great work.

Something about the pilot doesn't sit right with me. I dunno. Maybe it's Rube's accent.

I wasn't saying it was, just wanted to bring it up :P

Well, I absolutely love the pilot. :/

I wonder what the Hannibal show will be like.

edited 31st Oct '12 6:35:53 PM by occono

It has some great moments, but I feel like after George dies it kinda runs out of steam.

Except for Squirel Nut Zippers playing during the funeral, and the bank robbery. That was hilarious. Everything else after "Oh shit" falls flat for me.

Plus, again, Rube's accent. I dunno what Patinkin was thinking but I'm glad he dropped it.

edited 31st Oct '12 6:41:24 PM by Wackd

I don't remember too much of Dead Like Me but the last five minutes of the pilot. I remember really liking them.

From what I understand Fuller quit over several instances of homophobia, including the dequeering of the dad character.

Speaking of weird cross-overs, was Cynthia Stevenson's character on Six Feet Under meant to be a shout-out/cross-over with Dead Like Me? They've got the same names (though different surnames) the same occupations, characterisations... it'd be quite easy to believe that she was Joy, only several (bad) years on.

It's an attitude I've encountered before. It's meant to be life affirming, in a vaguely evangelical way.

Stuff like that sometimes follows actors around as a nod to their previous work. Speaking of Six Feet Under, it's the second of three shows that feature Peter Krause in some sort of relationship with a woman named Lisa.

I hate to use MLP: Fim in this thread but there's only way to express my delight at what has happened,since Fuller and Co couldn't be bothered to make them monsters which was the point of the show

the only good reaction

Honestly, if the entire joke, the only point, the only reasonable thing you could possibly do with this franchise is "oh, hey, they're monsters! And they live with normal folks! Hilarious!", than the original show wouldn't be regarded as being as good as it was.

It's not that they couldn't be bothered, it's that they decided that there was other interesting things they could do that might be undermined by going all-out on the makeup.

Did you watch the pilot? Do you have any opinion on it at all beyond "oh noes no makeup Ruined Forever"?

edited 1st Nov '12 11:13:41 AM by Wackd

Still, you can see why marketing this as the Munsters was a misconception. Fuller doesn't have a good compass when it comes to these things.

Except, y'know, it wasn't. I can't remember an ad that mentioned the original more than in passing and they even changed the title.

I prefer they acknowledge the original to filing off the serial numbers and having people point out the similarities and call it a ripoff. If you watch the thing it's very clearly The Munsters.

edited 1st Nov '12 12:36:25 PM by Wackd

''It has some great moments, but I feel like after George dies it kinda runs out of steam. Except for Squirel Nut Zippers playing during the funeral, and the bank robbery. That was hilarious. Everything else after "Oh shit" falls flat for me.''

See I found a ton of stuff after that heartbreaking. I'm guessing it didn't do anything emotionally for you, but it really hits me. Oh well.

Can't comment on The Munsters, have never seen it.