The Amazing Spider-Man 2

Book smart =/= tactful.

Is it any stupider than using his powers in a cage fighting match, dressed as a spider themed fighter, then not long afterwards start fighting crime in a largely similar costume?

They're casting an MJ, Harry Osborn, and they're considering using Electro.

I'd have no problems if the basketball scene ALSO had Macho Man Randy Savage, but alas, Mach was no longer on this mortal coil.

edited 11th Oct '12 5:50:30 AM by maxwellelvis

I suppose they're saving the Green Goblin and Gwen's death for the third movie, then.

Never been an Electro fan. He has cool powers, but that's quite it. He's going to need a personality revamp, since he's never been as interesting character-wise as the likes of Ock, Mysterio or Kraven.

Well, in Spectacular didn't they make him Liz's brother who owed gambling debts or something, or am I thinking of someone else entirely?

edited 11th Oct '12 10:39:07 AM by 0dd1

You're thinking of Molten Man.

Electro's character arc in Spectacular Spider-Man was different, but it was pretty interesting.

edited 11th Oct '12 10:49:28 AM by KnownUnknown

Becoming a Masked Luchador and getting involved in hooking schemes was not as bad because Peter did all of that anonymously. Sure, there was this super strong weirdo in a mask. Yeah, that crime fighter is the same local wrestler, but no one knew it was Peter. Sure, he stopped wearing glasses, some kids grow out of them, or get contacts.

There was Plausible Deniability, not much reason for people to suspect anything unnatural, besides that he can somehow get these Spider-man pictures, which is why he asked the Bugle not to credit the pictures to him in the comics. The people in the Bugle know of this guy getting pictures, the Television people can track the money they gave this Spider-man for a month, assuming they wrote him checks(the wrestling promotions probably used cash since he was not actually employed by them) but actually using his spider-powers out in the open, you a 155 pound at best formerly non athlete school kid, dunking, and shattering the backboard. At the very least, someone is going to accuse him of doping.

But if just one of the movie's problems has set this off, I think I will not delve any further for now and let those who liked it gush. If anyone else had problems with this film though, there isn't any reason to suspect the next one will be any better. Water World had a huge budget too, that did not make it anything special to look at.

When Spider-Man did the prize fighting, he was anonymous to the public, but didn't the guys organizing the fight and paying him see him without a mask on?

Besides, shattering the backboard with his dunk was likely not something he planned to do, but just him having trouble controlling his new superstrength.

Yeah, but it's kind of up in the air as to whether they knew his name or not. And New York is a pretty big city — the odds of that wrestling promoter running into Peter Parker are very, very slim.

it is still stupid though.

edited 11th Oct '12 1:33:49 PM by SaintDeltora

Considerably less stupid than, say, demonstrating his superpowers in front of a school full of people who know his name and have access to his records.

I don't really consider a high school kid breaking a backboard a "demonstration of superpowers"... Otherwise Devon Thomas would be Spiderman...

I didn't really see anything that Peter did in the gym that could be construed as "he has superpowers" unless you knew the fact beforehand...

edited 11th Oct '12 2:25:24 PM by Swish

I'd say a sudden switch from "no basketball skills" to "mad basketball skillz" is going to attract notice, even if "he has superpowers" is not the obvious conclusion.

As opposed to performing in a wrestling arena, a form of entertainment which has been known to be staged for quite some time, with a mask on.

before you need to accept that scene...

you also need to accept that somehow a spider-bite can give someone someone super-powers...

personally i do not really mind that scene all that much.

especially when you consider that the original trilogy had things like the train scene,or that scene in witch peter`s webbing attaches to a food tray,and he leaves the room dragging the food tray behind him.

that one is a much bigger "he is spider-man" signal if you ask me.

edited 11th Oct '12 2:56:55 PM by SaintDeltora

I doubt anyone but Uncle Ben/Aunt Mae would know of the change from "no skills" to "mad skillz". Primarily because Peter is portrayed as a loner and essentially friendless.

The vast majority of students who heard the story/saw the event would wonder more why Peter isn't on/never tried out for the Basketball team than how he "suddenly" got so skilled(not least because most wouldn't assume it's "sudden" unless they had seen him play before)...

edited 11th Oct '12 3:05:02 PM by Swish

...I think I've made my point.

Regarding the basketball sequence, Petey did something similar in the Ultimate comics, and it actually did lead to someone figuring out who he was. If they run with that idea, it'd be pretty cool. Otherwise, it's a pretty stupid move, and criticizing the wrestling scene and ignoring this one is pretty fanboyish.

...Am I the only one who was forced to play basketball in PE? Was my high school the only one that ever did that?

edited 11th Oct '12 3:05:48 PM by CorrTerek

I wasn't. I was forced to play Volleyball and run Track, though.

<nitpick> And no, that's not how you make a point, actually. All you did was show that there may be some ground for criticizing what he said, but didn't actually elaborate </nitpick>

edited 11th Oct '12 3:11:56 PM by KnownUnknown

who said i was criticizing the wrestling scene?

edited 11th Oct '12 3:09:17 PM by SaintDeltora

We rotated out. Sometimes it was other sports, but during the winter there was lots of basketball.

Also, you've made your point.

Uh...you did, when you addressed my comment about the wrestling scene and said that it was still stupid.

edited 11th Oct '12 3:14:02 PM by CorrTerek

you can like something and still think it is stupid.

heck! the crane scene was the most stupid, most contrived and most chessy scene i saw in anything for as long i can remenber! yet it was still my favorite scene in the movie.

by the way when i said "it was still pretty stupid" i was not even defending the basketball scene at that point. if you had asked for it i would have made the same rationale for the wrestling scene.

My apologies, then. I misunderstood your comment.

nah it is alright.

[holds out hand]

peace on earth?

edited 11th Oct '12 3:27:24 PM by SaintDeltora

Goodwill towards Spider-Men.