Arrow. Green Arrow tv show.

Yes, well, hopefully we won't need years of convoluted plotlines to figure out what Cupid's deal is.

edited 15th Nov '14 11:03:02 AM by spashthebandragon

I'm watching a walk through of Escape Dead Island and I may be crazy but see a few parallels to the plot of Arrow.

No, think about it. We have a young pretty boy Rich Idiot With No Day Job (Cliff), a Chinese Trickster Mentor like Yao Fin or Shado (Xian) and a special forces soldier wielding a katana (Rob), trapped on a hellish island where the crux of the story is on the kuru or mirakuru virus.

So, after getting into Flash and a several people saying I should give it a shot I decided to... well... give this show a shot and watch all the episodes Netflix has.

I suppose I'm several years late for this, but so far I'm getting serious Phantasm vibes from Oliver. And I'll take the trope page's word for it that the What Measure Is a Mook? decreases after the first couple of episodes.

edited 16th Nov '14 7:15:42 PM by KnownUnknown

Yeah, it decreases big time. Give Olie the chance to grow and he will pretty much. I've actually come to like that about the show in relation to the big picture. I think there are ways it could have been better presented, but still.

That's good to hear. At the point I'm at, it makes Ollie really sound like an asshole when he's postures about being better than Deadshot because he kills for justice and gives people the chance to make up for the wrongs they've done, when of course he only extends that courtesy to important people and indiscriminately arrows down everyone else.

I overall think how they handle addressing his asshole aspects and progressive toning down it works as it goes on. You'll find it sort of gets there as things go on (it's acknowledged in many ways as goes on, I mean more Olie getting it through to him) and Season 2 it really starts to show, in a way, Olie struggling to actually be a hero more and more. Like, he definitely wants to be the hero, but he's still trying to get down perfectly how to do it, especially in conflict to what he used to be and realizing what he was.

Not worth the time.

edited 18th Nov '14 12:09:58 AM by VeryMelon

@Melon: So you like a character who's perfect and static the whole time? Okay.

What? I didn't post to respond to the conversation, I was deleting something.

When does Ollie become Seasoned Capable Arrow?

Part way through season two. When he meets Barry ?

I'd say that's around the point. I'd say everything leading up to it is the foundation, but he's still rough around the edges as a whole. Meeting Barry and receiving the mask from him is really the point his development hits into more developed hero. Plus even after that, he's had his trials still as a character and is growing, though he's in a much better place now.

Holy Hell Cupid was annoying. Why is it so easy to become an expert in hand to hand and bow and arrow?

How is putting the crazy chick in with Waller better than letting her become a bloody smear on front of the train?

Also, I can't decide who I hated more - Cupid or DJ Douche.

edited 19th Nov '14 8:33:52 PM by oppyu

The Japanese wife is heading to a refrigerator soon.

@ Mullon: In fairness, she was a cop before she went crazy, so there's the hand-to-hand. And I think we only ever actually saw her shoot a couple people; calling her a master archer is probably an overstatement.

But yes, she was annoying. Which was too bad, because I thought the actress herself was wonderful. Last episode I was hoping (as someone who hadn't read the comics) that she was just a Genki Girl archer with a cupid theme, not some crazed stalker.

"Oh my god...I have a type."

Holy crap.

I only just realized she was Katana.

AWESOME

Also, "even nuttier than the last woman they had in Suicide Squad", ahehe.

I'd say it about Japanese husband, instead

edited 20th Nov '14 5:24:07 AM by Julep

Come on, now. It should be clear that from the sheer amount of arrows being thrown around by several people that Starling City is right on the convergence of some archery ley lines.

edited 20th Nov '14 5:56:20 AM by Malchus

And to be fair, she was a former SWAT, so in hand-to-hand she didn't start from zero.

(not that it helped against a Miraculu Soldier much)

I liked Cupid, although I felt they wrapped up her story too soon. Still, we've Deadshot and the rest of the Squad in semi-recurring roles, so hopefully she'll pop back up. I like how her costume wasn't really a costume but her look was still distinct, and not showing too much skin.

I'm hoping for a Merlyn/DJ conversation at some point, with a very dissaproving father vibe.

If by conversation, you mean arrow through the head, then yeah, I'm all for it.

Mr. Palmer will vanish into his own little world.

So when Felicity said, "You and I are gonna be best friends," was she talking to the dress or Ray Palmer?

EDIT: Oh, duh, the answer is obvious. She was saying it to Ray Palmer's abs.

edited 20th Nov '14 1:14:42 PM by spashthebandragon

Finished the first season.

I love how there are only two unambiguously goodhearted people in the season, and one spends half the season kidnapped and shoved in a empty room in fucking Bludhaven of all places (otherwise known as the festering boil adjacent to the armpit of the DC universe), and the other one is Tommy.