General Disney Princess Discussion

Aurora....I'm very mainstream in this regard, she is usually considered the most beautiful of them. It's the one claim to fame she has.

Yeah, I agree that Aurora has a great design.

Saw some more gameplay footage. Snow White can sing to call the dwarfs to help her after she saves them, Cinderella has a danceoff rhythm game with her stepsisters, Ariel fights Ursula with the trident, Belle fights Gaston by dropping books on his head, Jasmine fights Jafar with a sword, and Aurora gets to fight Maleficent with a magic wand!

Snow White doesn't directly battle the Queen, but she saves the dwarfs from being turned to stone, and Grumpy helps defeat the Queen while she dodges apples.

The prettiest IMO is Jasmine.

http://disney-and-love.tumblr.com/post/58518647756/primrue-to-a-place-where-there-are-no-happily

Having not seen Enchanted, until i read the tags I thought Giselle being transported to Manhattan was Ariel dissolving into sea foam. Which would be the saddest thing ever.

Does Cinderella do anything else? I think I mistook her broom for a spear for a minute.

She uses it to fend off Lucifer, I think.

At first I thought she threw her glass slippers at people. ^_^;;

As for the most beautiful, if I had to choose, I'd say Aurora (my favorite ), followed by Cinderella, Ariel, Belle, Tiana, Rapunzel, and Jasmine, in no particular order. :)

So who else here has seen this piece of awesomeness before? http://coolbyproxy.deviantart.com/art/Disney-Space-Princess-382727117

That reminds me. One of my friends was amusingly confused when I told her that during the costume contest of C 2 E 2, there were a few ladies dressed like Disney Princesses (Snow White, Belle, and Tiana). She thought they'd be superhero princesses. I replied "There's already a show like that: Sailor Moon. "

>Includies Maid Marian and Kida

>Ignores Elionwy

I do give a crap about the quality of the movie/character, but damnit, Elionwy should be included a princess because she's a goddamned princess.

I kind of wonder if it's a matter of Disney not owning the rights to Eilonwy. As far as I know, Lloyd Alexander's books are still in print, so his estate might have something to say about it.

EDIT: Of course, that wouldn't explain why that piece of fanart doesn't include her.

edited 18th Aug '13 7:44:15 PM by Topazan

Not again....why is this so important? Perhaps the creator of the fanart doesn't like Eilonwyn. Or wanted to include only characters based on fairy tale or legends?

I think it's mostly because her movie is forgotten, and that the Cult Classic status for Black Cauldron isn't as big as the CC status for ATLE (As more people are starting to appreciate it's art style) and RH (It's big with the Furry Fandom)

That's because The Black Cauldron is a bad movie, cult status or not, which doesn't have a lot going for it, not even the stuff other bad movies of Disney can claim fame on, like the animation (still the dark age quality), the villain (terrifying but not fascinating) or the music (there is only the score, and this is chopped up on top of it).

TBH I think the Troubled Production / Executive Meddling of Black Cauldron is much more fascinating than the end product.

And the end product itself is fascinating for Disney history. It's a movie caught between wanting so hard to be something new, different and adult but yet is also try so desperately to keep that Disney child friendly charm. It took Disney a decade to finally find some balance but even that's a bit sketchy.

edited 19th Aug '13 4:07:12 AM by PippingFool

Here's another thing. In the Disney film itself (I'm not familiar with the Pyrdain Chronicles), is Eilonwy actually a princess? She introduces herself as one, but there's no independent evidence of such. We never see her kingdom, and none of the other characters confirm her status. She doesn't appear to have any knowledge or skills that would be expected of royalty but not commoners. You could easily believe she made up being a princess in order to impress Taran.

That's exactly what I thought she did when I originally watched the movie, especially since the horned king calls her a kitchen maid towards the end (something which never got addressed later on). I learned since that this is from the book, but if you don't know them, it really does look like she only pretended to be a princess like everyone else in the group pretended to be more than they actually were.

Thank you. I remember that bit now. I've only seen the movie a grand total of maybe three times, and it doesn't stick in my memory very well because it's just...so...bad. Seriously, why does TBC have such a cult following? Is it just because it's the closest Disney has come to animating a Tolkien-esque epic fantasy?

I remember so well because this (along with Oliver and Company) is the movie which nearly caused me to give up on Disney (luckily, The little Mermaid is one of my favourite fairy tales).

I think it has a cult following because it is somewhat unusual for a Disney movie, having some really dark scenes. And it was the first one which used computer animation, so it is somewhat of importance. But Imho different doesn't mean good.

In that case, hail to a fellow crotchety grown-up!

Actually, though? TBC isn't that "dark." It's visually dark, with a somber palette and stormy atmospheric effects, but the story itself? Pretty standard fairytale fare. Disney gave us a gruesomely animated horde of undead clear back in Fantasia, so it's not even all that dark for the studio.

edited 19th Aug '13 9:25:44 AM by Karalora

I agree....Disney really can do dark and did it quite often during it's golden era but to some people, walking skeletons are impressing. And The Black Cauldron got the rating, though I bet that a lot of movies which were made before the rating was established might have gotten the same one, but now default at free at all ages. I certainly wouldn't show Pinocchio to a toddler.

Another mistake a lot of people make is assuming that Dark = Good (not to be confused with the trope Light Is Not Good ). Depending on the market, dark can be more of a creative risk and worth admiring for that reason, but that doesn't mean the final product will actually be worth it.

Watched Snow White And the Seven Dwarfs. Haven't seen it since I was 6. Cried at Snow White's funeral.

A lot of times I paused it to marvel at the animation, especially when the Dwarves are returning home—the waterfall they pass by before the scene fades out is an image I'll always remember.

That's my mom's favorite movie.