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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#226: Jun 13th 2017 at 8:01:16 AM

Well... ALL Lupin III series' are meant for adults. But Fujiko Mine is meant for tougher adults who like more serious entertainment.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#227: Jun 14th 2017 at 8:39:03 AM

Yeah; it was late and I forgot how much Colon Cancer it had. Both that one and Lupin III: The Woman Called Fujiko Mine have (spoilers) characters saying, "Nope, that's not how it happened!" They're both deliberately screwing with the audience on what was real and what was fiction. I love both, of course. It seems completely in character for them to do that.

ALL Lupin III series' are meant for adults
No, they aren't. Monkey Punch was writing/drawing for adults, but when the studio put Hayao Miyazaki and his buddy in charge of the "Green Jacket" series, part of the instruction was explicitly to make the series kid-friendly (The original Director refused to compromise on their efforts to realize Monkey Punch's vision). Miyazaki's influence there, and with Cagliostro, can be felt in most of the Made-for-TV movies, and especially the Lupin vs Conan films.

In my opinion, Miyazaki broke the mold by doing that. Without him, I'd expect the series to have died off in the early 1970s. By turning the Seinen series into a young Shonen series, he proved that the characters were vibrant enough to be used in any sort of demographic or rating. From G to MA, and even X. Limiting the franchise to just "kiddy stuff" or "adults only" fails to account for the many different types of stories that it can be used to tell.

edited 14th Jun '17 8:39:59 AM by crazysamaritan

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#228: Jul 6th 2017 at 9:58:01 AM

Yeah I'm pretty sure the other TV shows were generally considered family entertainment. It's just that family entertainment by Japanese standards is totally different than it is by American standards.

We're getting a fifth series, this time set in France.

edited 6th Jul '17 10:11:37 AM by comicwriter

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#229: Jul 6th 2017 at 11:15:28 AM

All I'm wondering is which color his jacket's gonna be.

Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#230: Jul 6th 2017 at 11:54:24 AM

I hope there will be many shout-outs to Leblanc's original stories of his grandfather (and maybe even a couple of updated adaptations).grin

I also assume that they're doing this series so soon due to the success of the Blue Jacket series. Which means that TMS is probably trying to secure a strong fanbase in France, unlike what happened in Italy, where there was already a long-standing and strong fanbase (Italy does seem to have the largest and most dedicated fanbase in the West, US notwithstanding).


As for the future Jacket: hmmm, I'm thinking of wild mass guess a black Jacket wild mass guess, as a nod to the predominant colour of his grandfather's iconic outfit.

I'm even thinking that there'll probably be at least one episode where he's gonna wear his grandfather's outfit.

edited 6th Jul '17 12:00:37 PM by Quag15

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#232: Jul 6th 2017 at 4:15:56 PM

[up]It's the most recent series. Very much worth watching.[tup]


[Shouldn't the Blue Jacket series/Italian Adventure be also categorized as Anime? Why does it have the Western Animation category?]

edited 6th Jul '17 4:18:16 PM by Quag15

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#234: Jul 7th 2017 at 7:33:59 AM

[up][up] Because the first release of each episode was in Italy, which by this site's standards makes it Western Animation.

Also in that announcement? France is officially calling it "Lupin III" for the first time!!!


I'm pretty sure that the Italians like Lupin more than us Americans. I see more fan-created Lupin III from Italy than I do from my own country. Like the two or three fanmade live action short films.


Yeah I'm pretty sure the other TV shows were generally considered family entertainment.
Seinen versus Shōnen. The original manga for Lupin III was Weekly Manga Action, and these titles are not family entertainment.

edited 7th Jul '17 7:46:13 AM by crazysamaritan

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#235: Jul 7th 2017 at 7:53:15 AM

I'm aware of that. I was referring to the TV shows, not the manga.

edited 7th Jul '17 7:59:39 AM by comicwriter

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#236: Jul 7th 2017 at 2:31:40 PM

I think I disagree with your sweeping statement, for reasons already given. If you could be more precise, I would understand your position better.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#237: Jul 7th 2017 at 3:29:09 PM

I'm not certain what exactly it is you're arguing.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#238: Jul 7th 2017 at 6:07:12 PM

I gave a pretty detailed response to ~kyun's claim that all of the Lupin III anime were for the adult demographic. My conclusion was that "Limiting the franchise to just "kiddy stuff" or "adults only" fails to account for the many different types of stories that it can be used to tell."

You then linked What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?, seemingly making the claim that every series was for the children demographic. I... already provided some evidence that Part 1 changed demographics partway through production.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#239: Jul 7th 2017 at 6:49:15 PM

I wasn't. I was referring to the ones other than the Woman Called Fujiko Mine.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#240: Jul 9th 2017 at 12:51:37 PM

Then you dispute the following:

Premiering to low ratings – and a fair bit of backlash from Moral Guardians due to its adult content – the original director (Masaaki Ohsumi) was fired after the second episode aired (though is credited up until the seventh, production-wise), replaced by Takahata and Miyazaki (working under the label "A-Production"), which caused a rather massive shift in tone halfway through the series.
How do you explain away the Moral Guardians comment?

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#241: Jul 12th 2017 at 7:58:13 AM

The fan identifying themselves as Candylemon has completed an English subtitled version of all of the Zenigata Keibu episodes. Has anyone heard about an official English translation yet?

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#242: Oct 2nd 2017 at 5:15:00 AM

Your thoughts on the new Toonami OP song for Lupin III Part IV?

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#243: Dec 21st 2017 at 8:46:30 PM

I only got to know about this today, but anyway: Lupin III Gets 50th Anniversary Project With Monkey Punch as Chief Director:

TMS announced on Wednesday that production on a 50th anniversary project for the Lupin III franchise has been green-lit under the title Lupin wa Ima mo Moeteiru ka? (Is Lupin Still Raring to Go?). Monkey Punch, the original creator of the Lupin III manga, is the project's chief director. Monkey Punch said that the anniversary work is filled with material from previous installments in the franchise, but also allows the staff to try out new things in animation.

[...]

"Lupin wa Ima mo Moeteiru ka?" is an updated reference to the title of the first Lupin III television episode, "Lupin wa Moeteiru ka?" The anniversary work's image visual above shows Lupin in a blue and white helmet and racing suit, just like the ones he wore in that first episode.

edited 21st Dec '17 8:46:49 PM by Quag15

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#244: Dec 21st 2017 at 8:58:48 PM

[up] I believe it's a remake of the first episode of Lupin III Green Jacket.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#245: Jan 25th 2018 at 11:13:47 AM

We haven't discussed ANOTHER NEW LUPIN SERIES!

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#246: Jan 25th 2018 at 11:42:50 AM

[up]I thought we did. I even gave my thoughts and speculations on the upcoming series.

(Though there's a probability that they'll just keep the blue jacket for this one, looking back at my post)

edited 25th Jan '18 11:45:06 AM by Quag15

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#247: Jan 25th 2018 at 3:32:00 PM

Maybe they could go with a Yellow Jacket for this series. tongue

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#249: Mar 25th 2018 at 12:26:24 PM

It looks like he's keeping the Blue Jacket for this ride.

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