Is the merged page supposed to not mention that it can happen unintentionally?
The merged page can mention it can happen unintentionally or intentionally. What it should not do is to split them between different pages/names.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Bumping for votes. Keep in mind that the merge option that we seem to be favouring now is about merging Did Not Do The Research, Artistic License – Indexes (and its subitems) and Artistic License into a page about inaccuracies (since that is what they are used for, from a quick scan of the wicks, and the indexed tropes/pages don't differentiate between intentional or unintentional inaccuracies) and turn Artistic License into a general "Inaccuracies are acceptable" page (which is also the common usage), and not about merging AL-I into Did Not Do The Research as content and names don't match.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Would people supporting that option also support similarly merging other "inaccuracies by category" pages? For example, if a discussion concludes that Hollywood Genetics is a list of inaccuracies about genetics, should that page join the new Inaccuracies family?
If Hollywood Genetics is a list of inaccuracies with no pattern behind them, put it in TRS and ask for a merge for The Same But More Specific.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
But that's what all the AL-I pages are.
Yes, which is why we are merging them into one "trope". It's the examples which will be split in accordance with their purpose - serving as proto-tropes for new actual tropes.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
So, you say pages like Hollywood Genetics should join this new family.
Also, I think I finally understand the difference between your proposal and simply renaming the AL-I pages. With your proposal, people can no more link to, for instance, Physics Inaccuracies. By making the page Inaccuracies.Physics, we emphasize that there's only one "trope" here. That is a good thing.
Ravenous Sophovore
Calling crowner:
- Remove wicks to Did Not Do The Research that are not in-universe or in trope descriptions.
- Merge Artistic License, Did Not Do The Research, Artistic License – Indexes, and the Artistic License X pages (name TBD)
For clarification, the merge option implies that Artistic License's index will be merged and the remaining page be repurposed to be about acceptability. In other word, the trope is merged and the page reused.
Alt names crowner here
, but it will need some more options.
Ravenous Sophovore
Is there a reason we can't use the preexisting term Artistic License?
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
- It lacks the "index" bit in the name.
- It's being repurposed, as the old crowner says.
- Artistic License is a bit too slanted towards the positive, and the index is about inaccuracies and not their quality/opinion about them.
Artistic License is a concept, but it's about deliberate stuff, from what I hear. Not all mistakes are deliberate and the mistakes can still be acceptable.
Try making air-quotes when you read it.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
What?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ravenous Sophovore
He means that "artistic license" can be read sarcastically without much effort.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
Well, that would explain why it has complaining issues as well.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Isn't the description of Artistic Licence a duplicate of Acceptable Breaks from Reality?
Nope. The latter isn't about inaccuracies at all.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I think "media" is redundant. The whole site is about media, right?
I'd argue the title "Did Not Do The Research" is probably worth keeping, on account of the Grandfather Clause - it has had some sort of Memetic Mutation and is a way of how people actually found this site (one public terminal had this site bookmarked at that page!)
Unless we keep the old title as a redirect, maybe that would work, and rename it - is that a fair compromise?
Huge inbounds... we should certainly keep it as a redirect.
We'll redirect in any case. But it's too narrow and negative, that's the issue.
I preferred Media Inaccuracies because it is more straightforward. Another thing I thought of was Fiction Is Inaccurate.
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I voted against Inaccuracies Index due to it being too general. That name would be better set as a list of any time someone gets something wrong In-Universe.
I Voted for Inaccuracies In Media as it does specify the scope of the index, as well as it implying an index. EDIT: Which Fiction Is Inaccurate does not do.
"Acceptable Breaks" is not about inaccuracies perse. What it is about is conventions that are loosely based on reality, if at all. These may allow people to not do the research*.
Anyway, so how will the subpages be compiled? I'm thinking this way:
- Inaccuracies used in media in general
- Inaccuracies used in particular genres (listed by genre)
- Media categories
- Specific inaccuracies utilized primarily by the particular medium
- Miscellaneous Inaccuracies in works using this medium.
- Works with several misc. inaccuracies (should not be needed)
edited 24th Aug '12 3:03:19 PM by DonaldthePotholer
No, the subpages will be compiled by topic. The only worth of examples is that they can be used for YKTTWs. Examples sorted by media or genre are absolutely useless.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Crown Description:
Note: None of these entries are mutually exclusive. Please exercise judgment For the record:- Did Not Do The Research is an index of tropes about inaccuracies in media.
- "subitems of Artistic License Indexes" are pages of the "Artistic License - X" family that hold lists of inaccuracies in subject matter X as proto-tropes and example stores for future tropes. They sometimes hold indexes of tropes about inaccuracies in subject X as well.
- Artistic License Indexes is an index of the pages of the "Artistic License - X" family, i.e the "subitems of Artistic License Indexes". It should not have any actual tropes on it.
^We don't have it yet, but hopefully soon.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman