Marvel's Avengers Assemble

Which episodes did you watch?

Everything but the one with Falcon's mom and the one where Tony has to go without technology.

Well, calling it the "worst" is pushing it; Personally, I feel it's the best of the recent brand of Marvel cartoons (except maybe Guardians of the Galaxy, which I didn't watch beyond the pilote). Problem is, out of the other two cartoons, one is at best a hilarious case of So Bad, It's Good, and the other is bad in a painful, obnoxious way. Avengers Assemble is the best not because it's actually good, but more because it's not horrible; it's just mediocre/average. There is nothing truly horrible about it, but it feels weak compared to shows like Earth's Mightiest Heroes or Justice League Unlimited. I literally stopped watching season 1 because I was bored with it. Season 2 is better (through still occasionally flawed), but season 3 so far has been disappointing.

Still, I am happy for you if you genuinely enjoy the show. To each his own; maybe you see something in this show that I don't^^

Well, the Thanos stuff was super underwhelming.

I still mourn the death of EMH. It died to soon!

Also, does Ultron have all the power if the Infinity Stones or not? Because it looked like he drained them and they turned black.

It'd be rad if the show ever remembered or cared about that.

I think some back up comics dealt with that.

According to them, Ultron drain I-Gauntlet, and I guess he uses Arsenal powers to put that energy in some pocket dimension and Stark was looking for it and then Gem energy showed up in form of evil Avengers or something. T'was odd.

Wow that's dumb

I don't know what's dumber; the fact they chose to solve a plot point as essential as the becoming of the Infinity Gems in a back-up comic instead of addressing it in the show, or the way they solved it...

I thought the whole point of their new policy was to make things more accessible to kids. Do they really think little kids will think to read tie-in comics?

edited 28th Apr '16 9:42:27 AM by Theokal3

Little kids get easily distracted by shiny objects, so no problem. Yay us!

....oh, wait. AA color's pallette is duller then in movies, which aren't animated. Problem.

Of course, it's quite possible that some comic writer decided to tie up this plot point cause he notice that cartoon crew forgot about it, and he didn't even contact them.

I image that when Infinity War comes out they will be like. "Welp, time to cash in. We're bringing back Infinity Gems!" "Say, what did we do with the Gems anyway?" "....oh, Sh#&@!"

I watched that Thanos episode, it sucked. The only part I liked was how Thor tanked the time stone.

The show is stupid on so many levels!

1. Ultron can absorb the full power of all the infinity stones. They are supposed to be universal in power and stark was able to use 15 minutes of prep to contain them? idiotic.

2. those weird mechs with jelly arms were just awful.

3. And this is when I became thoroughly disgusted. Asgardians need the help of Falcon to understand their own magic! And the Asgardian magic that kept the giant beasts at bay was.... glowy lights? COME ON! Marvel should be ashamed of this show.

I image that when Infinity War comes out they will be like. "Welp, time to cash in. We're bringing back Infinity Gems!" "Say, what did we do with the Gems anyway?" "....oh, Sh#&@!"

This is exactly the reason trying to do everything as close to the movies as possible is a terrible idea. I mean, imagine that in Phase 4 they end up doing a Thunderbolt movie for example, and the movie Thunderbolts end up looking nothing like the one in this cartoon. What will they do then, come up with a convoluted explanation for the Thunderbolts changing their composition and designs, or just make the change without bothering to explain like they did with Klaw? This kind of attitude will only get them that far. Eventually even little kids will get annoyed by that.

The only part I liked was how Thor tanked the time stone.

Yeah, regardless of the rest of the episode, this definitely was the one awesome part.

Ultron can absorb the full power of all the infinity stones. They are supposed to be universal in power and stark was able to use 15 minutes of prep to contain them? idiotic.

True, the Infinity Stones got seriously nerfed in this version. To be fair though, had they not be, there would have been no realistic way the Avengers could win. I mean, in the actual comic, they didn't- Thanos literally slaughtered them plus hordes of other heroes and villains, and only lost by negligeance because he left his body behind to merge with Eternity. And that would have been difficult to adapt in a cartoon.

those weird mechs with jelly arms were just awful.

You mean the ones who were in blatant CGI? Yeah, they were ugly as hell.

And this is when I became thoroughly disgusted. Asgardians need the help of Falcon to understand their own magic! And the Asgardian magic that kept the giant beasts at bay was.... glowy lights? COME ON! Marvel should be ashamed of this show.

... Wasn't that in a different episode?

edited 28th Apr '16 1:24:07 PM by Theokal3

it was in a different episode, but I had to mention it because it was so awful!

Ah, I see.

Well to be fair, these people weren't Asguardians, if I remember correct. Just people from another of the Nine Realms.

its still stupid.

It might be better that this show doesn't use Banner. Other than how the Avengers treated him, the correlation between Hulk and Bruce is wonky.

It felt like a very unhulky episode.

Even movie Banner wishes he wasn't the Hulk but there wasn't even a moment of 'maybe I'm better free of this and its someone else's problem.' Just constant and immediate pouting about how the Avengers wanted the squishy to stay out of the line of fire.

Maybe its too Thingish to have Banner glad to be free of the Hulk but then come around to accepting it to save the team but hey its not like there's any Fantastic Four shows currently.

Its weird that Assemble does Make It Like The Movie to a hobbling degree but when a moment comes to be like the movie they scurry away.

Its weird that Assemble does Make It Like The Movie to a hobbling degree but when a moment comes to be like the movie they scurry away.

My feelings exactly. Honestly, they try to be like the movies, but they fail to understand what we love about them. They take all the superficial aspects (lines, designs, one-liners...) but fail to really take what matters and replace it with random stuff from the comic without bothering to make anything fit.

Also related to what I said before: I am sure they must feel REALLY bothered now that Civil War has come out and it turns out Zemo is an In Name Only adaptation of his comic book counterpart whereas they already used his comic book counterpart. What will they do now, have him redesign to be more like in the movie? That might prove difficult to do this time.

edited 2nd May '16 12:18:12 PM by Theokal3

Still won't stop them.

Well, considering there were two Baron Zemos, maybe they'll just asspull something to say Heinrich is the masked guy and Helmut is the movie inspired guy. Or something like that.

Maybe Zemo will return later in mask and generally more comic-y...but before that happens, cartoon will already change their Zemo and they will have to change him back.

x5 The current episode is indeed a major Wallbanger for me. The Avengers treating Bruce, a character who never wanted to be the Hulk to begin with and has scientific abilities that makes him a useful non-action guy, is treated like shit by his teammates (most of whom don't really have powers either yet uses tech and skills to get the job).

Anyway on Zemo, yeah this show will most likely try to tie in with the upcoming movie and do something like saying the Zemo who is based on the movie Zemo is the son/grandson/brother/nephew/cousin/brother in law twice remove of this show Zemo in order to tie in with how Zemo is portrayed in the movie. . . . . Okay, so I'll write off "Naturally Original Plot" for reasons to watch this show.

edited 2nd May '16 1:05:27 PM by BigK1337

That's pretty much how I expect it to turn out.

God, I thought the whole "You have no power so you are useless" cliché plot was past history—'

Also if they do what you describe that'd at least be hilarious^^

So this infuriated me when I was watching the Body Swap episode.

Why wasn't Widow-Hulk doing Widow's acrobatics from the beginning?

Why didn't we get to see more of Thor-Widow with Mjolnir if Mjolnir always knew he was the son of Odin?

Why did they seem to forget that even without Mjolnir, Thor has superhuman strength and durability and just have Hawkeye bumbling around like even more of a stupid, useless asshole than usual?

Why did Iron-Hawkeye do a bunch of acrobatics and shit that Tony Stark has never exhibited the ability to do?