Not Tropeworthy: Four Point Scale

I don't think there is.

Well, I looked back over the thread, and two actions were suggested beyond a cut.

1. It was suggested that we remove aversions. I'm inclined to agree - it kiddies the water.
2. It was proposed that we rename. Given that the name is named after an incident that not even all gamers remember (I sometimes forget which game was involved), I wouldn't oppose it.

Though we may want to change the TRS tag on this thread if folks want to go forward with either.

1. I read through the trope, and I found that the aversions were generally more interesting to read about.
2. I have no idea what incident supposedly named it, but I've heard it elsewhere, and it describes the trope well for me.

Clock is set.

I think we should hold a crowner on both, then.

8.8 sounds like the trope for "excellent grade". For some reason it actually means "excellent grade that people are insulted by". An aversion, then, would be "excellent grade that people are not insulted by" and isn't that the normal effect of such a grade?

All this is, is interesting trivia about the current state of gaming journalism. Why does it need examples at all?

@Feather: Wait, which of the two tropes are you talking about here? 8.8 doesn't list many adversions that I saw, but 8.8 is the one that has an interesting story behind the name.

@Spark: Right, I think he was talking about "four point scale" as the one that has some interesting aversion stories (about reviewers who refused to grade works on a four point scale and got blacklisted as a result).

Actually, I think 8.8 needs to have the Trope Namer (which is first in the example list) discussed in the explanation of the trope, and pretty early on (before it goes into the implications and so on). If I don't know what 8.8 means, the original event is kind of important to understanding the etymology of the phrase.

I'm gonna go ahead and do a little editing on it. If it looks problematic, feel free to just revert me.

edited 2nd Jul '12 7:39:31 AM by Escher

What I want to do with the trope:

• A. Remove parts of description to get rid of Wall of Text
• B. Add my interpretation of this trope
• C. A visual graph of this trope in action; make it page image

edited 2nd Jul '12 2:21:54 PM by spacemarine50

Here's an interesting comparison:

• The name Eight Point Eight sounds like The B Grade for videogames*
  as opposed to The Smart Guy in Bully or Persona getting a B grade as part of the plot
  ...
• Four-Point Scale is The B Grade for videogames. (See EDIT 2)
• Eight Point Eight is actually One Review Magazine To Rule Them All in Real Life. EDIT: Or what Spark 9 said 4 posts up, take your pick.

EDIT 2: Upon further review, Four-Point Scale has transcended Video Games and is now just "The Academic Grading System" applied everywhere. Which means that Eight Point Eight is actually a Real Life Reaction to a B Grade for something non-academic. It could also be a (modern) parent's reaction to their kid's B Grade on something they were involved in.

Sounds to me like we should rename both Tropes at a bare minimum. EDIT 2.2: Such as renaming Eight Point Eight to B Grade Backlash.

edited 3rd Jul '12 6:40:29 AM by DonaldthePotholer

I wonder if it would be more clear if it were Four Point Ten Point Scale.

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Four-Point Scale does not seem to be Video Game exclusive. The trope is "Works are ostensibly rated on a scale of 1 to 10, but only scores between 6 and 9 are given out." As such, any review/critic can invoke a Four-Point Scale.

A possible rename target (I understand I'm getting ahead of myself) might be Sixty Percent Is Failure.

On the talk of Eight Point Eight, this seems like a related Audience Reaction whereby fans get upset because of a critic's score of the work. The two can overlap, but need not always.

edited 12th Jul '12 9:00:02 PM by DarkConfidant

The name isn't the problem; changing it won't fix anything.

I have added to the crowner the suggestion to remove all aversions and subversions from the examples list.

Since January 1, 2012 this article has brought 1,933 people to the wiki from non-search engine links.

Isn't the whole point of picking good names that we want people outside the wiki to use them? Mission accomplished. Rename is pointless.

The other goal of renames is to get rid of names that get constantly misused.

Having said that, I've downvoted the rename option since the misuse claim seems to be rather unsupported and the "obscure name" claim is disallowed by the inbound count.

Actually I think the problem is with the name 8.8, not this one; I'll start a thread on that once we're done here.

I want this trope to be flexible. The leading option pretty much requires a 1-10 scale for it to be a valid example. Should rewrite everything so it's more general and fits all scoring scales.

Seems like it should be "only uses top of scale" (e.g. 7-10 out of 10, 3-5 out of 5, A-B-C out of A-F, etc), instead of so specific.

I think that's more or less implied.

I'd be fine with that degree of flexibility. As long as the example illustrates that only the top half of the scale is used, I'd say the example fits the trope we're aiming for here.

Should the crowner option/s be edited to suit?

^^^ Seems explicitly specific about a 1-10 scale.

Calling crowner: limit to straight examples only.

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