I'm not entirely sure… both of those tropes are invoked almost universally for the sake of fanservice, but not necessarily
… there are some examples, like He-Man, the Thundercats, etc., where the design does genuinely seem to be just an innocent (or perhaps oblivious) design choice. Let's just set a rule where, for source material that's aimed towards children 12 and under, the work either has to insinuate that the creators are aware
of the potential appeal or seem to be trying to give something for parents to enjoy or something similar. For works with a higher age range, I think most instances of these tropes would indeed fit.
I just perused the Memetic Sex God
page and I agree, it needs some clean-up work. I'm less concerned about entries on young characters, because memes are memes and they're mostly jokes to begin with, but I can see the language needing some cleanup. My main problem is the lack of backup given to most of the examples; I understand that they're memes amongst a fan community and there really isn't any way to give the source, but I find it troublesome that I could easily just make an example up and it'd blend in perfectly fine. Even if we can't back examples up, perhaps we could try for more context?
I just made my way through all
of the Mr. Fanservice
subpages. There are a handful of examples which I considered questionable, but didn't have any actual familiarity with the series from which to challenge them, so I left those alone. Other than that, I gave them a good scrubbing.
edited 2nd Jul '12 2:21:48 AM by Wii