Nightmare Fuel cleanup

Well, Nocturna, if we duplicated the examples on both pages in this case, it would be so long it would break the page and would have to be further subdivided anyway. In fact, you can think of the Nightmare Fuel namespaced pages as both subpages of Nightmare Fuel and the works page, killing two birds with one stone.

In other words, in this case and that of similar reactions like CMOA, examples should not be duplicated on the main medium page and the work's nightmare fuel page. On the other hand, it's okay if it's duplicated on the medium-specific nightmare fuel page and the work's YMMV tab. Make sense?

edited 6th Aug '12 9:28:55 AM by ccoa

Full agreement.

As a standard, I suggest that the YMMV page should contain a relatively breif description of the NF content, whereas the NF subpage should be more detailed.

Makes sense to me.

The rough rule of thumb I've been using is if there are more than three examples for an entry (or can be broken down into at least three examples), the work gets its own NF page if it doesn't have one. One of the exceptions is, as noted, if the NF entry provided is super detailed and/or unable to be cut down; then it's more inclined to get its own page.

Short, lightly-detailed entries with one or two examples get moved to a work's YMMV page instead. But, if adding those examples to YMMV makes said YMMV's existing NF entry super huge, the two sets of examples are combined and the work gets a NF page.

Like I said, if anyone disagrees with any this, please let me know. It just seems a bit silly to me create a whole NF page when there's one lone, short example for a work and a (usually) existing YMMV page to put it on. But if that's the desire, I'll do it.

Nope, that sounds like a reasonable course of action to me.

Not just NightmareFuel/ related, but applies to all moments pages. In cases of works that have their own moment pages, should that be mentioned on the work's YMMV page - or should it just be removed entirely? Sometimes, I'll split up the TearJerker.Music page (and the various music genre pages) to their own Tear Jerker artist pages. Usually, what I do is combine the examples from the main tearjerker music page with the examples from the artist/band's YMMV page (because they're usually not consistent) - and then just remove Tear Jerker from the artist/band's YMMV page. Is that the right thing to do - or should I leave Tear Jerker on the artist/band's YMMV page, and replace the examples with "has been moved to their own tearjerker page"?

The idea of giving pages to works with three or more NF examples sounds perfect to me. With that in mind, was the situation with the NF pages for Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare ever resolved? Those separate pages are like ghost towns, no pun intended. :)

They seem to have enough examples to justify having a page, although I suppose you could make a series page and redirect one or both there, with a soft split.

@ccoa in 651: That's exactly what I was saying. Apparently I didn't do a good job explaining myself. XD

The problem was that Nightmare Fuel examples which were on a work's YMMV page were deleted off NightmareFuel.Literature, thus leaving the example only on the YMMV page.

edited 8th Aug '12 9:08:35 PM by Nocturna

Oh, sorry. Yeah, if it's only going on the YMMV page, it needs to stay on the NightmareFuel.Literature page.

Okay, that's clarified then. I'll stop moving them there and go back and grab ones I moved.

Guys, the Skulduggery Pleasant page has not been unlocked for some reason.

It's kinda difficult to unlock a page if you mispell it. We were asked to unlock Skullduggery Pleasant, while it's Skulduggery Pleasant. Spelling error. I unlocked it now.

edited 11th Aug '12 1:45:09 AM by lu127

Is the NightmareFuel.Alastair Reynolds page locked for any reason. If not, could it be unlocked so I can move a rather sizable section of Nightmare Fuel there?

And with that, NightmareFuel.Literature will be essentially done. It's been cleaned and alphabetized and folderized, and the mistakenly moved stuff put back. Between trimming summaries and moving stuff to its own page, it's much easier to navigate. As always, I appreciate anyone checking up behind me to fix stuff I might have missed.

edited 11th Aug '12 11:13:59 PM by Doryna

Unlocked.

The literature page looks okay.

ImageLinks.Accidental Nightmare Fuel needs to go — it's examples for an example-less page, and can't be merged into ImageLinks.Nightmare Fuel (unless there's misuse that's intentionally scary example). I'd like some agreement before cutlisting it myself, though. Note: Only 22 inbounds and no non-index wicks.

Images are examples? Also, the examples made problems which that page didn't make. So, no.

We talked it over, and decided that it wasn't hurting anything.

Fair enough. It isn't really problematic; I was wondering since it is an examples page, as those links would fit fine as examples in the main page if sorted by medium.

Video Games looks kinda busy to me. I think we should split the games that have folders to their own subpages. Anyone want to help?

Well, I was going to take a break after Literature, but yes, I'd be happy to go ahead and move those folders at least.

ETA: Moved. Skimming over the rest, looks like most everything there has a works page to create dedicated NF pages for if needed, and there are some nice big multi-example entries that would be prime candidates for moving.

edited 12th Aug '12 3:33:18 PM by Doryna

I've been moving the largest sections as I find them.

Now, Minecraft is driving me batty and makes me want to nuke it with a grenade. Anyone brave enough to tackle all the misplaced Fridge-something?

edited 14th Aug '12 7:05:20 AM by lu127

I have time, so I'll see what I can do.

Should I move the Fridge stuff to the Fridge page, or just delete them? Nevermind.

And done with NightmareFuel.Minecraft.

edited 14th Aug '12 8:40:37 AM by strawberryflavored

Okay, started alphabetizing/cleaning NightmareFuel.Video Games, and ran across a few problematic entries I'm not sure what to do with. They're at the top of the entries, just below the index section.

The easiest one to sort out is the Ipad one; I'm thinking break it up into the individual games. Let's Plays, I'm presuming, belong in a more suitable section. But the ones on genres...any recommendations or guidelines?

Alphabetizing done on NightmareFuel.Video Games. Also cleaned up a bit, mostly getting rid of overused italics, bolding, and ellipses, and tried to redo uncategorized links as I found them. Big as that page is, I know I missed something.

Because of size, I also did alphabetical folders. It might have the benefit that anyone who contributes to that page in the future will get the hint to do it alphabetically instead of adding it to the bottom of the page as has happened on other cleaned-up subject Nightmare Fuel pages. If anyone disagrees, please do away with them.