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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2351: May 9th 2012 at 10:34:10 AM

Oh right, I forget that they keep re-editing the initial post.

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
likes the cheeses.
#2352: May 9th 2012 at 10:35:04 AM

On another note, I noticed that many of these grey areas involve "sex comedies". To make sure I'm not out of touch with reality, how would you set the boundaries on sex comedies?

My benchmark is basically "Do I get the impression that the primary purpose of this work is to serve as a comedy with sexual themes, or pornography with comedic elements?"

A lot goes into how I judge one way or another. How explicit are the sex scenes when they come up? How much of the work is devoted to explicit scenes versus the comedic aspect? How severely would the plot suffer if the sex scene was removed/made less explicit?

It's really not an easy question to answer, and a lot of times for me it's tipped one way or another by mitigating factors in the particular work that make it feel more or less skeevy.

edited 9th May '12 11:14:35 AM by Meeble

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2353: May 9th 2012 at 10:37:33 AM

I suspect it's the distinction between Porn with Plot and Plot With Porn (or vice versa rather).

Oh wait, they're the same page.

edited 9th May '12 10:38:01 AM by TheyCallMeTomu

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#2354: May 9th 2012 at 10:38:09 AM

Ah, but here's the thing: Sexy Losers was out-and-out comedy with sex as the subject. I was also surprised to see it staying, but when I think about it it makes sense. What's tricky here is sex comedies with a rom-com twist for its "comedy" part. Let's call them sex rom-coms.

Sex rom-coms tend to sell a different kind of comedy, something more cute and intimate than Sexy Losers's crude jokes. This is a very common pattern in full-fledged pornos, so the boundaries between sex rom-coms and fluffy smut comics are rather blurry to me.


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I guess I can get behind Meeble's benchmark.

edited 9th May '12 10:40:49 AM by Catalogue

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Shadis Since: Jun, 2012
#2355: May 9th 2012 at 10:38:33 AM

Just wondering what abut ghastly's ghastly comic?

AStrayBard Sega's Last Hope from 867-5309 Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#2356: May 9th 2012 at 10:41:18 AM

I think the thing that separates the "Sex Rom-Com" and pure smut is that in the later, the romance is the means to an end (sex), while in the former, the sex is just a product of the relationship, not the main focus of the series.

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Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#2357: May 9th 2012 at 10:47:31 AM

LWMG? I linked it earlier, here.

Okay, I've just read both chapters of this and... look, I'll be honest here: I'm leaning towards cutting it. The porn:plot ratio is far too skewed towards the borderline (?) pornographic stuff. Even the plot is just a rather weak justification for the sorta-smut. I'm sorry, but... that's my thoughts on it.

Now, if you excuse me, I'm gonna watch some Pocoyo to balance it out...

edited 9th May '12 10:47:52 AM by Komodin

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#2358: May 9th 2012 at 10:58:36 AM

I've updated the announcements thread and cutlisted a bunch of stuff.

Lu is sleepy now. Zzzzzzzzzzzz...

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#2360: May 9th 2012 at 11:03:26 AM

Meh, isn't that most ecchi series? Just 'cause it's monster girls doesn't need you need to watch something else to balance it out.*

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2361: May 9th 2012 at 11:07:15 AM

Updated the announcements thread? Ooo goody!

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
likes the cheeses.
#2362: May 9th 2012 at 11:07:48 AM

So in a way, we still allow very adult-oriented content that's not bleached-underpantsable, but still not porn?

That's my reading of the guidelines, yes. It's a matter of "primarily porn" versus "work that happens to have some porn-ish elements"

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#2363: May 9th 2012 at 11:09:22 AM

[up][up] I update it daily! >.<

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LargoQuagmire Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#2364: May 9th 2012 at 11:10:06 AM

[up][up] Makes sense. I mean, we can't just go deleting every movie that showcases weird sex. We'd have to delete Superbad and Team America if that was the case, and I can only IMAGINE how well that would go...

edited 9th May '12 11:10:15 AM by LargoQuagmire

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#2365: May 9th 2012 at 11:12:39 AM

I feel that the words 'porn' and 'pornography' are being thrown around far too loosely here. A work can't simply 'contain pornographic elements' It can contain explicit content and sex scenes, but that's not the same as pornography.

I just feel that this would clean up a lot of confusion if that word wasn't thrown around so cavalierly.

Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#2366: May 9th 2012 at 11:13:07 AM

So... are there any other works that you guys would like to discuss that could run the risk of making me go cuckoo?

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#2368: May 9th 2012 at 11:14:31 AM

Quick, someone flag Cloud Mows The Lawn! evil grin

Thank god we have no page on that. Yuck.

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DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#2369: May 9th 2012 at 11:15:31 AM

I have a particular work that I'd like to discuss, not because I feel it runs afoul of the rules, but because there's enough explicit content to be worthy of a review.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2370: May 9th 2012 at 11:15:42 AM

[up][up]So you've had the "pleasure" of reading that story too, Arha Lu?

Edit: Dammit, Lu, stop making me confuse you for Arha! tongue

edited 9th May '12 11:22:58 AM by MarqFJA

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2372: May 9th 2012 at 11:17:07 AM

Like I've said, Secretary has weird sex, but it's not porn.

edited 9th May '12 11:17:21 AM by HersheleOstropoler

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Autumncomet from the hive Since: Jan, 2011
#2373: May 9th 2012 at 11:18:30 AM

@Marq: Actually, that's lu. She's impersonating Arha. evil grin

Good to see Catalogue back. I trust he approves of Five P?

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#2374: May 9th 2012 at 11:19:48 AM

I have a particular work that I'd like to discuss, not because I feel it runs afoul of the rules, but because there's enough explicit content to be worthy of a review.

Eh, fire away. After reading a story with a lamia girl having an orgasm, I think I can take on pretty much anything at this point.

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#2375: May 9th 2012 at 11:20:44 AM

Misfiled Dreams. It's an incredibly good work (probably one of the best I've ever read), but it gets plenty smutty toward the later installations.


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