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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1626: May 4th 2012 at 3:52:15 PM

[up] <hands over Brain Bleach>

[up][up] Well... That's certainly... meticulous care for realism.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1627: May 4th 2012 at 3:53:31 PM

FATAL is called the worse tabletop ever for a reason. I seem to recall that it's also rather misogynistic, though that has nothing to do with P5.

Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Cool Dude
#1628: May 4th 2012 at 3:53:36 PM

Pfffffffff hahahaha "realism" he says...

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1629: May 4th 2012 at 3:55:58 PM

Eh, I vote to keep FATAL-its main point as an article has to deal with the tropey element of So Bad Its Horrible. The main reason to cut it is more about bitching about things you don't like.

Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
Hammer of the Pervs
#1630: May 4th 2012 at 3:56:21 PM

There's a reason why there are already two devil votes for FATAL.

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1632: May 4th 2012 at 3:57:52 PM

FATAL is the only RPG that interrupts the grappling rules to explain how you can rape your opponent before going back to grappling rules like nothing happened.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1633: May 4th 2012 at 3:57:59 PM

Yes, I will miss the horribleness. -__-

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Cool Dude
#1634: May 4th 2012 at 3:58:51 PM

I'd have stubbed it, if only because it's memetically bad and I believe there's a link that explains everything you'd need to know so TV Tropes wouldn't need to catalogue it.

But I'm sure not crying about it going away on the Nice Boat trip. tongue

edited 4th May '12 3:59:15 PM by Raidouthe21st

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animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#1635: May 4th 2012 at 3:59:14 PM

[up][up][up] ...Ok, I think I'm going to go back to my cartoons now...

edited 4th May '12 3:59:32 PM by animeg3282

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1636: May 4th 2012 at 3:59:27 PM

By not discussing FATAL there will be a huge void in the RP specific knowledge base of TV Tropes.

It's not a big deal-I'd understand a cleanup and lock or something-but it feels like it's such a well known thing that it's irresponsible to just purge it entirely.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1637: May 4th 2012 at 4:00:23 PM

...I could mock those rules, Shima, but I don't think it's really necessary. Everyone is already thinking it.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1638: May 4th 2012 at 4:00:27 PM

Such meticulous care for detail... which, IMHO, is pretty much unnecessary from a gameplay or even narrative perspective.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
Hammer of the Pervs
#1639: May 4th 2012 at 4:00:41 PM

I've literally never heard FATAL mentioned once outside of this site.

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.
Oroboro Since: Nov, 2011
#1640: May 4th 2012 at 4:01:43 PM

Seems a lot like Dead Baby Comedy / Crosses the Line Twice / Refuge in Vulgarity to me.

edited 4th May '12 4:01:55 PM by Oroboro

Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Cool Dude
#1641: May 4th 2012 at 4:02:08 PM

[up][up]Knowledge of it is mostly located on tabletop game based forums...and 4chan.

edited 4th May '12 4:02:34 PM by Raidouthe21st

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1642: May 4th 2012 at 4:02:32 PM

[up][up][up] Me neither. I apparently lack expertise at sucky tabletop games.

I sure don't feel disappointed about that.

edited 4th May '12 4:02:42 PM by lu127

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TheManInBlack Since: Oct, 2009
#1643: May 4th 2012 at 4:03:37 PM

Martello it's famous on tabletop websites for being creepy as hell and it's review on Rpg.net and the creator's response.

edited 4th May '12 4:04:08 PM by TheManInBlack

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1644: May 4th 2012 at 4:07:49 PM

It comes up at cons a fair bit where it is mocked and then we all go back to ignoring it doesn't exist. It's basically the card you pull out when you want to mention the worst game ever and have no one argue with you.

And it's a source of terrible terrible jokes.

That said, I'm not sure how well known it is outside of gaming circles.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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KrazyKopter Bitter person in the shadows.... Since: Apr, 2011
Bitter person in the shadows....
#1646: May 4th 2012 at 4:11:44 PM

[up] [up] That sums up how several people (including me) see Otomedius, although now I'm not sure it should be cut at this point (Otomedius, not FATAL, that can be cut). It's on par with Queen's Blade (although that seems to have been better received by the public).

edited 4th May '12 4:18:25 PM by KrazyKopter

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abstractematics Since: May, 2011
#1647: May 4th 2012 at 4:11:58 PM

I don't think keeping an example as the example of most horrible is a good idea. Sounds too absolute, much like 0% Approval Rating.

edited 4th May '12 4:13:03 PM by abstractematics

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LargoQuagmire Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#1648: May 4th 2012 at 4:17:23 PM

I wasn't aware of FATAL until I saw this site. I don't know if that's good or bad. XD

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#1649: May 4th 2012 at 4:17:58 PM

Just so that we're thorough on this, someone should mention that a game system in and of itself is not porn, even if it has rules for sex. ...I feel a bit dirty now.

Although you could certainly make a case for pedo-bait for either.

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tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
#1650: May 4th 2012 at 4:20:11 PM

I say stub, clean, and lock. It is bad (both in terms of what the P5 measures and in terms of the utterly broken game mechanics) but not quite kill-the-page bad.

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