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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM
I didn't go through the entire list, but several of the stubs follow a recognizable pattern of description and trope format...any of those should be cutlisted.
I think a lot made by one guy, too. Not sure why he thought it was a good idea.
@Willbyr: Already noted that myself.
I cutlisted the real farts that shouldn't have been on the list at all (like a piece of gambling machine software), fired some over to the CVR tool to be dealt with properly, and added a trope or two to one game that appears legit.
@Discar: I'd suggest that we ask him, but as I said above, he's been gone for over 6 months, and his attempt to imitate the WikiDragons from the Elder Days of The Other Wiki was over a year ago.
edited 3rd Jun '14 3:20:01 PM by Ramidel
...not following you there.
"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohenedited 3rd Jun '14 9:30:19 PM by Pyrite
Not a substitute for a formal medical consultation.In other words, he crapped out a lot of pages with the bare minimum of required effort and left them for the Wiki Magic to improve.
As I said, though, that was over a year ago and he's out of the line of fire now anyway.
edited 3rd Jun '14 9:37:50 PM by Ramidel
Dropping by to note that the works here have been processed. I am not sure what has to be cleaned on Fluffy Pony though - a quick look didn't show anything bad to me.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI stumbled upon this (massive NSFW warning) from what the website (which shall not be named) claims to be the most recent episode of Seikoku No Dragonar. I have not watched the show yet and after seeing these gifs I am not sure I would. For the curious who don't want to open, basicly more tentacle rape imagery than you could imagine.
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What do we have here? Right, tentacles, tentacles, at least 2 little girls and tentacles.
There's also the official trailer -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCRak4oyA9o <- that seems to actually support the tentacle content. What can be done?
edited 4th Jun '14 2:38:21 AM by Kaizerreich
I've watched the episode and it doesn't go any further than what is shown in those gifs, no penetration. Of the nine episodes so far released the tentacle zombie dragons have only been in 2 or 3.
edited 4th Jun '14 3:14:35 AM by SebastianGray
I am not sure what has to be cleaned on Fluffy Pony though - a quick look didn't show anything bad to me.
How about all of this?
- Disproportionate Retribution: In spades. Making "bad poopies" (not in the litterbox, generally by accident) can get a fluffy beaten or physically/mentally tortured. Invading a human's land is at the kindest an invitation to be abused and at worst a death sentence for everyfluffy involved.
- Dung Fu: The smarty friend's favored tactic for trying to make a human leave their land to the invading herd, and many a bratty pet fluffy's favored way of sticking it to their owner. It doesn't usually achieve much apart from incurring the human's wrath, and in the case of the smarty (or the pet fluffy in some stories), ensuring a painful death.
- Eat the Evidence: Fluffies usually use this as their go-to method for hiding evidence, as they have few other options. Occasionally enforced by owners or abusers, in the case of "bad poopies" or a dead foal.
- Electric Torture: In addition to general torture, electricity at certain levels can 'reset' a fluffy's brain, causing it to forget things or obey a suggestion made during the post-shock period.
- Exalted Torturer: Abusers in abuse-focused stories are often this.
- Explosive Breeder: OH YES. The generally accepted headcanon is that a fluffy pregnancy lasts three weeks, and that the newborn foals are fullgrown adult fluffies in one month, and that fluffies have an insanely high chance of conceiving from one session of "special hugs". You don't have to do the math to know that's a buttload of fluffies.
- False Rape Accusation: Smart female domestics who want babies will let feral fluffies mate with them and then invoke this trope. As most fluffies are bad liars and both humans and fluffies will rarely harass a rape victim, the mare usually pulls it off. Occasionally used by feral mares to advance their position (accusing the Smarty of raping them and letting the herd attack.)
- Kick the Son of a Bitch: As horrible as some abusers' acts are, it's hard to not side with them when the fluffies they harm are Asshole Victims. When there's no justification, it falls right into Kick the Dog
- Mind-Control Device: Tasers.
- Never Say "Die": Literally, in the case of fluffies. Though stories will not shy away from saying it, fluffy ponies themselves can only comprehend death as "forever sleepies."
- The exception is when a fluffy's mind is irreparably broken by an incredible act of physical, mental or emotional damage. In this case, the fluffy will lose all personality and repeat "wan die", a stark contrast to its ordinary mind.
- Not Safe for Work: Fluffy Pony works should be treated as this. Most work is tagged properly, but the blurred-lines nature of the concept means that safe hugbox works may still feature genitals, dark comedy or bizarre themes.
- Revenge Through Corruption: As fluffy foals only take about a month or less to fully mature, a dedicated abuser can quickly raise a victim's child with whatever corruption is desired.
- Road Apples: Fluffy ponies tend to produce a large amount of manure. It stinks, even worse than you'd expect horse manure to stink, but is absolutely wonderful as fertilizer. Combine with the fluffy pony tendency to defecate when scared and you have a rather unfortunate combination.
- Torture Porn: A hallmark of the more brutal and descriptive abuse stories, where acts of brutality against fluffy ponies are often described in loving detail.
- Unusual Euphemism: Fluffy speech is mostly comprised of these. "Nummies" for food and "special friend" for love/mate/sex slave/pillow stand out in particular.
- Why Did It Have to Be Snakes?: There are three things fluffies fear above all else: the sorry stick (any stick used to spank a fluffy as punishment), the sorry box (any box used to put a fluffy in time out, again as punishment) and water.
That's what I got from a quick skim of the page. There may be more. Now, it's theoretically possible that none of the above is sexual, but I don't have enough faith in human nature to be entirely sure of that, and regardless, it's creepy as fuck and doesn't strike me as the sort of data we want exhaustive detail on in our wiki.
What's precedent ever done for us?<Gag> Why did I look at it half asleep?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanHey, look on the bright side - that's a few extra hours you got to go without that knowledge rattling around in your head.
Seriously, if that's not the worst page currently on the site, then I really don't want to know what we've got that's worse.
What's precedent ever done for us?So what about the New Look Series, then?
"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy."Well, seeing Sonic the Hedgehog in Rouge the Bat's suit kinda hurt my soul a bit, for starters.
Seriously, though, from what I'm seeing, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of plot, but it's not really pornographic, either. It's just... really appealing to the creator's fetishes.
Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.Mills College Anime Club, Koibito Play and Chugworth Academy are all still sleeping under no votes since March.
KP has apparently been stubcut while you guys were waiting, though.
edited 7th Jun '14 4:08:43 AM by Ramidel
Okay, Chugworth Academy looks like it can be kept and cleaned. It seems to not be quite as bad content-wise as people said it was.
With Koibito Play, I was leaning towards a cut anyway, as it seems more about the BDSM sex than anything.
Mills College Anime Club, on the other hand, I can't find the original work anywhere (the story is outright gone in Fiction Press), and I'd really rather avoid using that... mean-spirited Something Awful review as a basis for any decision on it. In fact, why is that review linked on the page in the first place?
Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.Well there is a measure of Jerkass Has a Point in there, the writing really is quite bad. (Although it is mixed with a barrage of attacks on tropers even completely unrelated with the work.) But you actually could use it as a preliminary indicator of pornography in the MCAC - they wouldn't miss a chance to point it out if it is present.
edited 7th Jun '14 7:57:29 AM by Adannor
I couldn't even read that past the first few pages, it's like a perfect example of how NOT to do a review. I can't tell if it's supposed to be a review of the work itself or Tvtropes itself because the first few pages are just an essay about how bad we are, and contain complaining that has nothing to do with the work in question.
Not to mention if they'd take five minutes to look, they'd realize the stuff Fast Eddie "censored" off their page was moved to YMMV.
MCAC looks to be pretty homophobic. I don't care if it was written by a transsexual, all of these characters are mostly defined by their sexuality and how much sex they have.
"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy."It's not really a review and yes it's not totally focused on MCAC. It's more like an episode of the "tvtropes suck" show, roughly centered about MCAC.
Still like I said: if they didn't find porn (I'm not sure if they did or not, I haven't finished with it yet), then it's probably not there. You can pretty much skip the sections where they go on about tropers (distinguished by screenshots of the forums) and go straight for sections that are actually about MCAC (quotes from the work are in blue text with quoteblock frames).
However, that is not P5's jurisdiction.
I sometimes still wonder where the stick up the collective asses of SA came from. I thinking being so (in)famous has gone to their heads.
VideoGame.Cyber Photographer, VideoGame.All Nude Cyber, VideoGame.All Nude Glamour, VideoGame.All Nude Nikki, VideoGame.Crystal Fantasy, and VideoGame.The Joy Of Sex are all just obvious porn stubs.
VideoGame.Snow Drop is a stub, but the reason for it being on the list is simply "Look at the girl on the right." I have no idea what's wrong with it; the trope page doesn't even mention sex at all.
Adults Only Rating is an index. Removing the list of works is probably a good idea, but there shouldn't be a problem with keeping it around as a definition page.
FanFic.New Look Series appears to be just pure fetish porn.
edited 7th Jun '14 11:09:27 AM by Discar
I'll volunteer to check out the works on that index (Adults Only Rating) over the course of this week to see if they are actually worthwhile examples of fiction or just exist for the sake of existing if I am allowed to do so.