Duplicate Trope: The Force Is Strong With This One

Aura Vision is "The ability to perceive normally invisible Life Energy of others, often colour-coded for good/evil, emotions, amount of life, Power Level, etc."

Enemy Scan is "An item, ability, or spell that when used provides the player with otherwise hidden information about the current enemy." This sounds like it's limited to computer games only, but many examples are from other media.

The Force Is Strong with This One is the "ability to sense each other's power ... that is represented with conveniently color coded Aura Vision" (and when used, the character is expected to utter words like "The Force Is Strong with This One"). So basically it's Aura Vision shown as Aura Vision. Also, it has only 8 inbounds, so it's not really working as a name, and it's a line-of-dialog trope name, which we're trying to avoid.

It strikes me that all three are the same trope, and indeed there's quite a bit of overlap in the examples. Should we merge these, or is there a difference that I'm missing?

edited 1st Apr '12 11:43:10 AM by Spark9

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Enemy Scan is being able to get specific information; the other two only give you a general sense of your enemy. The other 2 also allow for usage on non-enemies, but Enemy Scan doesn't have that flexibility. Star Wars has no Aura Vision, but has plenty of The Forceis Strong With This One, so these 2 aren't mutually exclusive.

So, the way I differentiate these tropes:

• Enemy Scan: A technical scan of data regarding the subject. It can be done with magic, but the data is of a technical quality, rather than visual, emotional, or some other less exact sense. Not necessarily just for enemies, though, but most commonly used so. (As in, the subject is 166 cm tall, as opposed to, "being somewhat taller than I am," at 162 cm.)
• Aura Vision: The ability to see a being's aura. The aura can show a lot of different things, but the trope is simply the ability to see it.
• The Force Is Strong with This One: This is very similar to the above one, but falls more under the Tell part of Show, Don't Tell. It's also not limited to visible auras, but also a feeling of power.

I'm not sure if the last two are different enough, but the first one strikes me as its own trope. I haven't checked any examples closely, but the little I did read seems to follow the above.

edited 2nd Apr '12 3:31:21 AM by Feather7603

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I suspect the third is a specific type of magic ability similar to The Worf Effect, essentially trying to establish a characters dangerousness without resorting to a mountain of mook skulls.

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The Force Is Strong with This One really isn't Aura Vision, although some forms of it might also be Aura Vision. The Trope Namer isn't Aura Vision; sensing the Force in others is more a matter of receptivity than vision, and powerful users can sometimes mask their presence. Aura Vision is a normal sense, this trope is a hunch.

So I don't agree with the charge of being a duplicate trope. It might be a good candidate for a rename; besides being dialog-like, it's really long.

Please read the trope Aura Vision: it does not actually require there to be an aura, nor does it require a visual sense. Aura Vision is a metaphor; the trope simply means the ability to perceive certain invisible energies.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!

If that's the case then we do have a duplicate trope, HOWEVER because the name is more restrictive than that definition, I would be interested in a Wick Check dividing which pages use it as specifically, well, Aura-Vision, versus which pages use it for aura-sensing in general.

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The tropes arnt quite treated the same though in the examples.

Like Aura Vision has a thing on Scouters and their ability to read Power Levels (users of this do not sense Ki from other people they need tools to do it)

The Force Is Strong with This One's entry deals with people ability to sense Ki.

Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!

I'm not being literal, the metaphor just fails in this case. The Force does not color code; apparently, you can't even tell when someone has fallen to the Dark Side, although you can sometimes sense its power at work. It's not Aura Vision, it is only vaguely related in being a supernatural sense.

It still falls squarely under the definition of Aura Vision (which doesn't need to be color-coded either).

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Line by line

Although not color-coded, the Force is an invisible energy field.

No, not even metaphorically. Darth Maul could be standing right in front of you and you wouldn't be able to tell he was evil by looking at his aura. You can't even tell how powerful he is.

There is no Detect Evil in Star Wars. You can sometimes sense the Dark Side doing things, but it's in all things, and you can't detect Dark Side people.

Sure.

True, all three are about seeing invisible things.

So, no, this is not Aura Vision. At least, the Trope Namer is a non-example.

edited 3rd Apr '12 11:25:35 AM by pawsplay

Clocking due to inactivity.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.

I think this fits better as a stock line rather than as a subtrope/duplicate to Aura Vision. while this is actually pretty common, apparently no one links to it as it is usually used as a rather insignificant comment people say *

to emphasize(minor) that someone is really powerful, something already obvious if he moves the plot because of his powers (major).

As for this being a duplicate trope, I see the point in it. since this is essentially Aura Vision except with sixth sense or feeling. so instead, maybe tweak aura vision to accomodate visionless aura sensing?

btw, what's "clocking"?

edited 7th May '12 10:38:59 AM by ShanghaiSlave

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Clocking means that this thread will be locked if there is no significant activity before the clock expires. Like now.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.